On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:53:59PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:25:47PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:47:42PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > It's your own fault. You choosed to run non-free software, now you get > > > the consequences. Debian doesn't support vmware, so go somewhere else > > > with your vmware problems. (Debian does support plex86 and bochs, BTW) > > > > As this might be a bit too offensive I apologize if you read it that > > way. Here is an alternative wording which says what I actually meant > > (I never try to write a mail quickly just before I got to bed): > > > > This problem is very common for non-free software. If you want to > > avoid such problems, you could try one of the free alternatives in > > Debian, plex86 and bochs. Those might have other problems (like being > > slower) but you probably won't have the same problems you're having > > now. We can also help you with problems you are having with plex86 and > > bochs. If you insist on using vmware, we can't help you, you should go > > to the vmware guys when you've got problems. > > Have you ever tried to do any work beyond the boot process in > plex86? Not really as I didn't got the Hurd beyond the boot process. > It's unbearably slow. If I'm right the plex86 developers know why it's slow. > I have a day job, as well as spending plenty of > time doing other Debian work; it's not like I have time to sit down, > spend hours beating on plex86 (it's a real pain to get going, I did it > anyway!), and then spend months of my life making it faster. There is > only one program in the caliber of VMWare, and that's VMWare > itself. But if it doesn't work because there is a bug in VMWAre and it isn't fixed because the version it too old, we can't help those people who are running VMWare. > You're perfectly free to not use it, but those of us who have to get > work done are also perfectly free to use it - and Debian's Social > Contract, as Anthony pointed out, says that we'll try to help people > who need to do that. If I'm right, but correct me if I'm wrong, debian-devel isn't a mailinglist to ask questions about every random piece of software which runs on Debian. > Plex86 is not an alternative to VMWare in any reasonable sense of the > word. It is IMHO. Just like that GNU/Linux is an alternative to windows. (But it isn't even "user-friendly", how could it ever be an alternative???) Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: jdekkers@jabber.org Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: jeroen@openprojects
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