Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V102 #386
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>debian-devel-digest Digest Volume 102 : Issue 386
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>Today's Topics:
> Re: about the debian way [ Matijs van Zuijlen <Matijs.van.Zuij ]
> Re: perl is offensive [ Mark Eichin <eichin@thok.org> ]
> Re: Should debootstrap's requirement [ Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.co ]
> Re: perl is offensive [ Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au ]
> debian-sanitize^H^H^Hy [ Chad Miller <cmiller@surfsouth.com> ]
> Re: Orphaning gnomp3 [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
> Re: My GnuPG key [ "Carl B. Constantine" <duckwing@duc ]
> Re: Upload to auric.debian.org faile [ James Troup <james@nocrew.org> ]
> Re: Announcing ... [ Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@bluecherry. ]
> Re: Bug#138541: ITP: debian-sanitize [ Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.n ]
> Re: Bug#138541: ITP: debian-sanitize [ tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG ]
> Re: inappropriate racist and other o [ "Lex Spoon" <lex@cc.gatech.edu> ]
> Re: Announcing ... [ Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org> ]
> Re: about the debian way [ christophe =?iso-8859-15?Q?barb=E9? ]
> Re: inappropriate racist and other o [ tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG ]
> Re: inappropriate racist and other o [ Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org> ]
> Re: Bug#138541: ITP: debian-sanitize [ Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.n ]
> Re: long daemon outages on upgrade [ Daniel Martin <dtmartin2@earthlink. ]
> Bug#138781: general: asdfasdfas [ <paolo@gsi.it> ]
> Bug#138782: general: asdfas [ donpaolo@gsi.it ]
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>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:44:20 +0100
>From: Matijs van Zuijlen <Matijs.van.Zuijlen@xs4all.nl>
>To: debian devel <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: about the debian way
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020317134420.GB12356@mvz.xs4all.nl>
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>On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:57:40PM -0500, christophe barbé wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 07:07:19PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:22:04PM -0500, christophe barb? wrote:
>> >
>> > > I use an old laptop with a not so good ide drive.
>> > > Each time a soft uses too much the drive, the feeling (responsiveness)
>> > > of the system is degraded.
>> > > It not so bad but for some particular cases it's very bad.
>> > >
>> > > One of this case is 'find /'
>> >
>> > You may want to try:
>> >
>> > apt-get install hdparm
>> >
>> > and experiment with the settings. This tuning will often considerably
>> > increase laptop disk performance and system responsiveness.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> I already played with hdparm and I believe I can't do better now.
>> The major problem is that the swap is used and when find / is running
>> you really know that the kernel is using the swap. I could add RAM
>> (which is expensive) or buy a new laptop (which ...) but most of the
>> time I am more than happy with it.
>>
>> I am astonished that no one else reported this problem. A 'find /' is
>> not a small task and with anacron you noticed it automatically when you
>> power on your machine (you power it on to use it and boom steve is
>> working too). Perhaps most laptop user don't use anacron and then miss
>> most of the cron task.
>My laptop is basically always on, so usually cron handles all that while
>I'm sleeping. It needs to be on, since it is a cvs server, and I just
>can't be bothered to wait for it to boot. Whenever anacron does start, I
>have no real problems with performance though. How much RAM do you have?
>--
>Matijs
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>Date: 17 Mar 2002 08:49:56 -0500
>From: Mark Eichin <eichin@thok.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: perl is offensive
>Message-ID: <[🔎] xe1wuwbnw1n.fsf@swat.thok.org>
>> as long as there is not yet a debian-coffeecorner@lists.debian.org
>there is -- debian-curiosa.
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>Date: 17 Mar 2002 15:13:43 +0100
>From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Should debootstrap's requirement be standard or base?
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 2flvgbvgu3s.fsf@saruman.uio.no>
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>[Anthony Towns]
>> This is the correct thing to do. You shouldn't try using priorities or
>> sections to work out what's in base.
>So the part of debian-cd choosing packages based on section and
>priority should be taken out?
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>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:41:55 +0100
>From: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: perl is offensive
>Message-Id: <[🔎] 20020317144156.6EA041D33@lyta.coker.com.au>
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>On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:30, Josip Rodin wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:12:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>> > > Manoj tells me he has proposed sanitising debian by ridding it of perl.
>> > > This email is to second his proposal. I feel perl's "there's more
>> > > than one way to do it" attitude to be offensive and harmful to young,
>> > > inexperienced programmers and could seduce them down a dark path.
>> > > As it stands, perl is inappropriate to be on the box my brother uses.
>> >
>> > I hope every single message like this is being Cc'ed to "Lazarus
>> > Long"...
>> >
>> > There do, after all, have to penalties for wasting so many people's
>> > time.
>>
>> Unfortunately that might only get the sender a bunch of MTA warnings
>> and bounces, since Lazarus Long's email servers are about as reliable
>> as a 90-year-old's erection.
>I find unreliable mail servers offensive.
>Let's block Lazarus from sending mail to any of our mailing lists or BTS
>addresses to stop people like me from being offended by that broken mail
>server.
>Anyone who can't run a reliable mail server can use hotmail, there is no
>excuse for using an unreliable mail server.
>I am not joking.
>--
>If you send email to me or to a mailing list that I use which has >4 lines
>of legalistic junk at the end then you are specifically authorizing me to do
>whatever I wish with the message and all other messages from your domain, by
>posting the message you agree that your long legalistic sig is void.
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>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:42:17 -0800
>From: Chad Miller <cmiller@surfsouth.com>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: debian-sanitize^H^H^Hy
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020317064216.A6720@surfsouth.com>
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>I'm flabbergasted that the idea of a "harden-feelings" package has gotten
>so much legitimate response. One would think that a group that advocates
>software liberty would overwhelmingly find a subjective offensive-package
>list itself offensive to the objective reason Debian exists.
>I hate to sound like I'm arguing for moral relativism, so I'll make two
>statements, and you can choose which one you prefer to believe: What some
>people believe is stupid. Other people don't believe as
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