Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V102 #308
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>debian-devel-digest Digest Volume 102 : Issue 308
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>Today's Topics:
> Re: feedback wanted alternative Debi [ Jeroen Dekkers <jeroen@dekkers.cx> ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
> Re: resource for woody freeze status [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
> "Trying to remove package, not updat [ Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es> ]
> Question about NMU [was Re: Request [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org> ]
> Re: updating /etc/hosts on ifup... [ Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.m ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.m ]
> Re: "Trying to remove package, not u [ Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org. ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.j ]
> Re: /var/games/package must be 770 [ Bill Allombert <allomber@math.u-bor ]
> Re: Question about NMU [was Re: Requ [ "Christophe Prud'homme" <prudhomm@M ]
> Re: Question about NMU [was Re: Requ [ Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@de ]
> Re: Package splitting and upgrades [ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@de ]
> Re: feedback wanted alternative Debi [ Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net> ]
> php vulnerability [ Rainer Dorsch <rainer.dorsch@inform ]
> Re: /var/games/package must be 770 [ Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au ]
> Re: Bug#92810: doc-rfc license [ Branden Robinson <branden@debian.or ]
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>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:21:03 +0100
>From: Jeroen Dekkers <jeroen@dekkers.cx>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: feedback wanted alternative Debian installation system
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020301122103.GA954@celeron.dekkers>
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>On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 05:49:13PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:50:24PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>> > The project isn't dead. The new CVS repository should be set up
>> > soon and there are still people who want to work on the project.
>>=20
>> Lots of dead projects have people who say they want to work on them.
>> Until there's a certain amount of coding it's just hot air.=20
>If you had taken the time to look at the savannah project you would
>have seen patches in the patch tracker. There is development being
>done on plex86 at the moment, it's only not really visible because the
>CVS isn't working.
>> It would be
>> great if plex86 were finished, but pretending that it can replace vmware
>> at this point when it can't does no service to the free software
>> community.
>It can replace vmware easily. There might be some bugs which might
>cause that it doesn't really work at the moment, those bugs are
>fixable. You can also checkout the plex86 of some time ago when it
>still worked and use that.
>Promoting non-free software when there is a free alternative doesn't
>service the free software community at all.
>Jeroen Dekkers
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>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:30:13 +0100
>From: Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Package splitting and upgrades
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020301123013.GG22069@cibalia.gkvk.hr>
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>On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:08:02AM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>> Further note that people using apt-get do not care about complex
>> package interrelations and are willing to fix things by hand, tracking
>> down individual packages that they need and installing them. (That is
>> what it means to use the back-end tools manually). Ditto for dpkg
>> -iGROEB users.
>Actually, we have so far recommended _everyone_ to use apt-get dist-upgrade
>for cross-release upgrades, not just the advanced users, i.e. those who
>don't mind getting their hands dirty. (Note that I was the release notes
>maintainer for slink->potato.)
>You get shit for recommending apt-get, and you get shit for recommending
>dselect...
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> 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
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>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:42:01 +0100
>From: Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: resource for woody freeze status?
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020301124201.GH22069@cibalia.gkvk.hr>
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>On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 06:23:53PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
>> > is there any online resource that documents the (current) status of the
>> > woody freeze process?
>>
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200202/
>> (see all the "release status updates"?)
>>
>> > i just want to know what's going on and understand what the problems
>> > and/or current steps are. a webpage with a dynamically generated list of
>> > rc-bugs and some explaination on how to proceed and what is most urgent to
>> > be done would probably help even the non-hacking users and contributors.
>> > it's mainly a question of transpareny i think.
>>
>> http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
>> http://base.debian.net/
>> http://standard.debian.net/
>> http://bugs.debian.net/
>>
>> Everything debian is doing WRT release is utterly transparent, I boggle
>> at you thinking otherwise.
>BTW I'm adding these answers to the www.d.o/releases/{woody,testing}/ web
>page, hopefully that will cut down on the number of people thinking
>nothing's going on...
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> 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
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>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:06:42 +0000
>From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: "Trying to remove package, not update it"
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020301130642.GA30870@arborlon.riva.ucam.org>
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> * mueller (- to 2002.02.27)
> + Maintainer: Debian QA Group
> + Trying to remove pacakge, not update it
> + Too young, only 0 of 10 days old
> + Not considered
>(There are other examples, this was just one I'm slightly familiar
>with.)
>I understand that the "Trying to remove package" wa
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