localepurge vs. dpkg [was: Re: Bug#135564: general: Consistencia de localepurge con eurocastellanizar]
kov@debian.org (Gustavo Noronha Silva) writes:
> anyway, I think you and user-euro-es's maint. should talk about
> this, user-euro-es is supposed to be used by beginners and localepurge
> too, I think a newbie will have no idea about what happened when just
> after installing user-euro-es there's no euro locale heheh =)
>
Actually i think that "localepurge" is mainly meant for responsible
and conscious minded sysadmins. While i like the notion to make
administration tools like this more user friendly even for the
seasoned sysadmin's very pleasure i do not like to see our tools
tailored to be mainly suitable for bloody newbies.
People who use Debian are expected to learn how to use the included
tools. People who don't want to learn such stuff should please go out
and install a newbie oriented Linux dsitribution like Mandrake or
SuSE. I definitely think that Debian doesn't have to take over Linux
world domination because this would mean to succumb to the unwashed
masses. No thanks, that's not why i love Debian.
Then again both seasoned administrators and newbies as well should be
able to read what localepurge is about before playing tricks on the
system's locales directories. Nobody is forced to use localepurge and
only people who know it's implications should actually use it.
> (something like providing a way for packages to register new locales
> to save with localepurge... don't know if this is too dificult, though)
>
This would just turn out into an effort that localepurge simply
doesn't deserve and which only adds mor complexity than needed to such
a superfluous tool. IMHO localepurge is just a primitive hack, albeit
a sorely needed one, and shouldn't be further developed beyond what it
is now. Being it's very author i do claim that it's superfluous
because it only tries to compensate a lack in our package management
which will hopefully be going away some time in the future.
Every further effort should rather be invested in making our, in this
regard, still lacking package management able to only install certain
defined portions of a package. It should be possible to tell dpkg to
not install e.g. the stuff in "/usr/share/doc/<package>", or certain
locales only, and so on.
But this needs people with more knowledge than i have.
Thanks, P. *8^)
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