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Re: real LSB compliance



On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 04:17:19PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:17:37AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 tytso@mit.edu wrote:
> > > 
> > > Finally, I want to underline again the fact that the discussions on
> > > this subject have been happening for over a year, and most of these
> > > issues (runlevels in particular) had been settled a long time ago.
> > > Many other distributions (SuSE and Caldera in particular) had already
> > > started making changes to their distributions in preparation for LSB.
> > > 
> > > Where were all of the Debian developers back then when we were
> > > actually discussing these issues?  It was an open process, and you
> > > could have affected the course of the standard back then.  (There have
> > > been a number of very good points that were raised in this thread; I
> > > just wish they were raised a year ago.)
> > > 
> > > Where were all of the Debian developers when we started the one month
> > > review process before the final standardization of 1.0?  We received a
> > > lot of comments and carefully considered all of them before putting
> > > out the 1.0 standard.  Although it would have been much more
> > > convenient to have received these sorts of comments a year ago, it
> > > still would have been much easier for all concerned if we had received
> > > these comments a month ago, instead of now, after LSB 1.0 written
> > > specification has been released.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, most folks refuse to
> > > actually pay attention to a standard until after it's finally released
> > > --- at which point they start kvetching.  Well, if you don't like what
> > > happened with LSB 1.0, please help us with LSB 1.1!  Volunteers are
> > > always appreciated.
> > 
> > FUD
> 
> FUD has a specific definition, which is "Fear, Uncertainty, and
> Doubt".  Exactly how was my message related to any of these things?

FUD can also mean:

"I don't like what you said and can't admit it's true so I am going to stall and try and push things back onto your shoulders."

-Nathan



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