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Re: Helix debian packages



>>>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:26:27 -0500, Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> said:

 Joseph> On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:59:55PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote:
 >> > 	There are official helix-gnome package for us? If yes, who are
 >>
 >> I don't understand. We already package gnome stuff.

 Joseph> True, but compared to Helix Gnome, Debian Gnome usually falls
 Joseph> short.  I've seen bugs reported and fixed the same day with
 Joseph> Helix.  I recently switched back to Debian Gnome for testing
 Joseph> and building some Gnome software on a clean system (which was
 Joseph> a PITA still, but only a minor one..)

The only differences I see between helix and debian gnome are
1) The little bootup dialog has a different image
2) The image in the menu bar is a flower rather than the helix
   loki-like guy.

And gosh of course we suck because ya know debian people have jobs
that don't relate to debian.  The helix guys do this for a living.  So
complaining that the debian packages don't get fixed as quickly is
just lame.  That's life in the world of volunteerism.  You want me to
fix gnome bugs more quickly?  Pay me to do it.

 Joseph> I can say that bugs fixed months ago in Helix are still there
 Joseph> in Debian.  Some of them are almost trivial problems fixed in
 Joseph> minor upstream releases.  I would REALLY like to see more
 Joseph> cooperation with Helix and Debian..  In fact, I'd like Helix
 Joseph> to be IN Debian...

 >> > 	Excuse me for my dummy question but if there aren't I'd like
 >> > 	to work to
 >> > build them (I'm in list to become maintainer).
 >>
 >> Why? helix-gnome debs are at helix and Debian has packaged "plain"
 >> ones.

 Joseph> Helix Gnome packages are more bleeding edge in theory, but in
 Joseph> practice they are a thousand times more usable in terms of
 Joseph> reliability, stability, function, and integration.  By
 Joseph> comparison, Debian's Gnome packages just plain SUCK.

Bull crap.

Jim

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