Re: My (less-then-important) personal position
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Ben Armstrong wrote on Wed Jun 14, 2000 um 08:41:11PM:
> had to go outside of Debian to try it out doesn't make me any
> less-inclined to want to use Debian. OK, perhaps I'm not a "typical"
> user (whatever that is). But I fail to see how "the marketplace" in the
You got it. There are still many "typical users" that the most
developers assume. These people expect to buy a CD set and get all
software that they need from these disks. They don't want to search on
Freshmeat, Deja or ML-archives, they just want to set up a system with
software which is included on the distribion media. And missing
Netscape, non-free-fonts or other "free-available" apps are an
KO-argument against Debian by these people.
> "age of the Internet" would be any different. Must your entire system be
> installable off a single set of CDs? I think by now people are used to
Yes, it should be. I woudn't get >10MB additional packages on a slow and
high-cost analog-modem line, which is still the case by really many people.
> obtaining software from a variety of sources, and so this argument that
> "people won't use Debian if it doesn't contain non-free" (and it doesn't
> anyway ... that's just an illusion) just doesn't hold water.
As mentioned before... Many people on this list should open their eyes:
Not everyone is so envolved in Linux/Development and can supply himself
with software he/she need. Many users depend on software distributed on
CDs which is considered as "free" by the most people but not by Debian
(you know what I mean, don't start another one "free beer" vs. "free
code" discussion). I don't mean shit like KDE which should really be
droped, not only because of the brain-dead licensing methods, but
programs that became traditional on many Linux systems: Netscape, Fonts,
tetex-nonfree, probably xv, even such things.
Eduard.
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