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Volume on -devel

-devel is too high volume, and has many posts from people who are
apparently lacking in clues.  I hope that these people (I won't name
names) are not developers.

I renew my call for -devel to be closed to non-developer postings.

Perhaps if -devel didn't have postings from nondevelopers we wouldn't
be so tempted to discuss things on -private when there is no need for


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