Panorama is the GNU 3d program. It is based on scripts which you feed it, and is GPL'ed. It'll make a change from hurd ;) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte