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Re: Upgrading RH 4.1 to bo



On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Christoph wrote:
> 
> > I satisfied dpkgs hunger for a database with
> > 
> > >/var/lib/dpkg/status
> > 
> > dpkg --clear-avail
> > 
> Way cool! This means that /var/lib/dpkg/info is not necessary for new
> installations? You just have to be willing to clean up the trash after the
> installation.

/var/lib/dpkg/info is generated by unpacking the data.tar.gz from the
dpkg-1.4.0.8.deb file.


> Also, I assume that when you finally install dpkg that it builds and
> populates the alternatives, info, methods, parts, and updates directories?

Yes.

> I can see where a script to copy all libraries into /usr/local, re-run
> ldconfig and then replace the links to point to the /usr/local copies and
> delete the original library copies. Then when the installation is complete
> for the new Debian system, just kill all the old links and wipe
> /usr/local. Does this sound right?

Never thought about that.


> How did you transition the init portion of the system?

dpkg -i sysvinit*.deb

did everything necessary including some fixes to the /etc/inittab file.

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On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:
> >On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
> >> lprng has removed the possibility to automatically remove Files
> >> after printing. This is however necessary to remove spooled jobs.
> >> How do you work around this problem?
>
> > I'm not sure what you mean. Files in the lprng spool directories do
> > get automatically deleted after printing...so you must be talking
> > about something else.
>
> I must confess that it was long ago I tried to set up printing from
> Windows clients with samba. It worked by copying the to-be-printed
> files to /tmp on unix and issuing a lpr command. I then was puzzled
> about the many big files in /tmp with strange names until I got the
> idea to add a "-r" switch to the lpr command to remove files after
> printing. It worked from then on and I never tried to setup anything
> and only remembered that the "-r" switch was vital for operation with
> samba.

but that's not necessary at all. with samba, printers listed in
/etc/printcap appear on the Win3/Win95/etc machines printer list (this
is the default for the debian package - you can turn it off if you like)
- Win users can select it and print to it just like any other printer.

Here's an excerpt of relevant parts from my /etc/smb.conf file which
works on my network.

[global]
   printing = lprng
   load printers = yes

[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   browseable = no
   path = /tmp
   printable = yes
   public = no
   writable = no
   create mode = 0700

Once you've set this up, you should be able to see the linux box's
printer(s) in Network Neighbourhood on the Win95 machines. Can't
remember what the Win3 equivalent is, but the linux printers show up on
Win3 too.

I have samba, lprng, and magic-filter installed.  it works brilliantly.

craig

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There is a hylafax package in experimental packaged by me needing work.
Look through the archive of debian-devel. Someone else wanted to take it
on.

On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote:

> There had been several people mentioning they'd make a package from it. W=
ho
> finally took it now?
>=20
> Reason: I do need a central faxserver here, and might contribute some wor=
k
> do testing...
>=20
> Nils
>=20
> --
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>     --* WINDOWS 42 *--                       | Schillerstr. 61=20
>      /              \                        | 37083 G=F6ttingen
>                                              | ++49-551-71626
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On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Alvin Birdi wrote:

Yes it is, thanks.

> 
> Dear Solomani,
> 
> > 
> > Can someone tell me why on one particular box cron wont run?
> > 
> > I have three other identically setup Debian box and the cron on them runs
> > fine, but this one it doesnt.  why? 
> > 
> 
> Make sure that the file `cron' is in /etc/init.d and is executable. If
> it isn't, copy it over from one of your other machines. This is the
> file that is responsible for starting and stopping the cron daemon. 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Alvin Birdi
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> Middlesex University
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Sven Rudolph <sr1@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> writes:

> It should not be closed unless a bug report for all the packages that
> still have this problem is filed.

Bruce did a few months ago (see 6150-6179), and the programmer's
manual is also more explicit, so I think it's ok to close.


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Vincent Renardias <vincent@waw.com> writes:

> 	And this is the plain expected behavior since mail determine who is 
> sending the mail by looking at who is logged on the tty it's called from. 

Yes, getlogin(3).


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  Sue>  As a long time latex user (10 years), I must agree that the current
  Sue> version sucks. It is barely usable. Many common fonts and macros are
  Sue> missing.

I beg to differ (backed by 8 of LaTeX). Debian's TeX works very well for me,
including documents that mix Adobe postscript fonts and standard fonts, lots
of postscript graphs etc. I have about some local additions
	edd@miles:~> du -s /usr/local/lib/texmf/
	1245    /usr/local/lib/texmf      
which helped me for my requirements in all (!!) my written communications
over the last years.

You should have seen the Debian TeX prior to Nils redoing of the Debian
TeX. That one _really_ sucked.

  Sue> I upgraded to tetex and have had no problems.  Tetex really must get
  Sue> into the distribution asap.

Not asap if the transition fails. Stability first.

  Sue> We should stop discussing whether to do it, and concentrate on what
  Sue> the best method of automating the upgrade is.

And test test test that procedure.

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Subject: Debian diald/pppd IPCP negotiation problem; fails first time, succeeds second time [db]


Hi,

I'm having trouble connecting with ppp under diald, on Debian 1.2.x.

When I run pppd without diald (using Debian's pon command), pppd connects
fine.

When I use diald to run pppd, PPP won't connect the first time, but will the 
second time.  (And if the connection goes idle for a while and diald hangs
up, the first reconnection attempt fails, but the second works.)  (This is 
not 100%, but about 95% of the time.  That is, once in a while, it does 
connect the first time.)

(Note:  This is NOT the known diald problem of connecting the _first_ time
and _not_ connecting subsequently.)


So far, I have traced the problem to patterns in PPP's IPCP configuration 
negotation.  However, I could use some explanation of exactly what the
IPCP negotiation packets mean and what's going on.  (See the system log data 
below.   I could also use an explanation of the _LCP_ configuration rejection 
packets -- what is being rejected?) 



I suspect that part of the problem is at the other end, and part is at
my end.


It appears to me that the other end, for some reason, alternates between 
providing addresses and not providing addresses during IPCP configuration 
on subsequent connection attempts.    (See "rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1]" in 
the failed attempt vs. "rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.109>]" in 
the successful attempt, below.)

Is my interpretation of the IPCP packets correct? 

Does it sound like a configuration problem at the other end, or at my end?

(The "other end" is an Ascend multiple-ISDN-modem box, a MAX 5000 or something,
at my employer.  We have static IP addresses.)


At my end, it appears that some difference in my ppp, pon, and diald setup
files lets PPP proceed with IPCP negotiation anyway when I use pon, but 
not when I use diald.

The pon command uses local and remote IP addresses I have specified in
the Debian PPP option file read by pon.  (The addresses are not in the
main pppd options file, but are added to the pppd command line by pon.)


I have specified the local and remote IP addresses in the diald options file
(and verified that diald is using that options file -- if I comment out the 
local and remote lines, diald notices and complains).  

However, it appears that diald doesn't pass these addresses to pppd 
(according to ps -ww... and to /proc/xxx/cmdline).

(I thought diald passed the IP addresses to pppd when it ran pppd.  Does it?
Am I missing some diald configuration option to tell it to do so?  Also,
it there a debugging option to tell diald to log the options it passes to 
pppd?)



So...does anyone have any ideas on this?  I'm getting tired of having to
wait for diald/pppd to try twice every time (especially given that diald
won't seem to retry upon failure unless there's a _new_ packet transmitted
by an application.)


Thanks.

Daniel


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Example of failure:

...darkstar pppd[...]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x48d04f2a> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp> < 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x4 < 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x48d04f2a> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x48d04f2a> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95> <compress VJ 0f 01>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95> <compress VJ 0f 01>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: Could not determine remote IP address


Example of success:


...darkstar pppd[...]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x44bd52ef> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp> < 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x3 < 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 5d ae 4c>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x44bd52ef> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x44bd52ef> <pcomp> <accomp>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95> <compress VJ 0f 01>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.109>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.109>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95> <compress VJ 0f 01>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 <addr xxx.yyy.30.95>]
...darkstar pppd[...]: local  IP address xxx.yyy.30.95
...darkstar pppd[...]: remote IP address xxx.yyy.30.109


-- 
Daniel S. Barclay      Compass Design Automation, Inc.
daniel@compass-da.com  Suite 100, 5457 Twin Knolls Rd.  Columbia, MD 21045 USA

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Dear All,

We're about to enter a code freeze, and I have an almost fully fixed
new fvwm95 ready for release.

However, this upstream version has changed the name of the resource
files, both in /etc and in users' home directories.  I can handle the
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I propose issuing a statement in the postinst, and pausing for a key
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The issue is complicated by the more complete support for the Debian
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Then again, I'd hate it if I suddenly logged on to find my carefully
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Speak up now, and help me with this issue.  Is now the right time to
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Me quieren decir por un chingado!! que es ???

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