I bit off more than I could chew with the mysql packages, someone else needs to take them. For those daunted by the nonfree part, I have heard from the mysql authors that they intend to GPL older versions, simliar GNU ghostscript/Aladdin ghostscript. -- Brian Almeida <bma@debian.org> Debian Linux Developer - http://www.debian.org finger bma@debian.org for GPG/PGP public keys cthread. cthread_fork(). Fork, thread, fork!