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Re: relationship with Ubuntu - call for feedback (not only ARB)

On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:15:33 +0100
Iain Lane <laney@debian.org> wrote:

> Greetings,
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:10:53AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > […] 
> > But back to the main point: please also comment on other, non
> > ARB-related, aspects of the Debian-Ubuntu relationships :-)
> OK :-)
>  + Mixed teams continue to be an excellent way to do development in

Definitely ++

> both distributions. Moreso when people have direct upload access to
> both and can therefore cause delta to be reduced themselves. (Message:
>    Encourage Ubuntu Developers to get upload privileges in Debian and
>    vice-versa)

Even co-maintaining with active partner(s) is a great help. You apply
the patch, build and test. They build test and upload :) (My point is
you don't need to get upload yourself in debian to be useful)

>  + Some success in pushing people from MOTU to Debian when they arrive
>    with new packages. I still have the feeling that getting people
>    integrated with a team's workflows is inevitably difficult though —
>    encourage teams to write FAQs for newbies.

And try to keep it to one faq, and (if possible) one place to look for
packages to help with. (Although this is probably debian housekeeping
and not right for this thread).


>  - Frantic pace of development means that patches are often not
>    forwarded or that waiting the extra day or two for a Debian sponsor
>    is not considered possible.
>  - Limited success in getting people to do QA uploads (script which
>    monitors derivative uploads to orphaned packages and hassles people
>    to submit upstream?)
>  o Encourage people to keep track of patches they submit upstream and
>    seek NMUs if warranted.
> Regards,

Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK7FOSS)
No, I won't join your social networking group

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