On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:10:13 +0200 Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 07:43:40PM +0930, Karl Goetz wrote: > > > [ So, while we are on the subject, I'm curious! You might be > > > aware of the fact that for the forthcoming Debian Squeeze > > > release, the Debian kernel team has split away all (known to > > > them) non-free firmware > > Yes, I expect it will be a great help for us :) > > Glad to help :), and thanks for your detailed answer. Sorry about the delay in responding - I was in transit to GHM [1] for a few days, and just remembered this thread was still hanging. > > While I know (from lurking on various Debian lists) that non-free is > > definitely a 2nd class citisen, its still housed and built on debian > > infrastructure. The claim its 'not part of Debian' does require the > > person hearing the claim to have a working knowledge of D. the > > distro vs D. the project/community. > > (I realise that sounds a bit antagonistic - I'm not hoping to start > > a fight about this, just expressing an opinion). > > Oh, not at all, it does not sound antagonistic. Your principles are > fairly clear, and I've no problem admitting that I disagree with some > of the underlying claims. For instance I don't think that the fact > that some non-free software is *built* on the Debian infrastructure > should matter at all, as it can be built there, but not exposed to > users of the free part of the system. I know that FSF considers that > Debian is advertising "too much" non-free software, but I consider > that quite subjective. > All that notwithstanding, I respect your principles and I'm happy that > gNewSense is based on a Debian-based distro, no matter which one. > Welcome in the family! Thanks! I hope we can become good contributors and part of the family. > > The impression I got from the list archives was the children-distros > > page was being kept for direct children. I'm happy to put together a > > paragraph, but perhaps it should wait until we do a debian based > > release? > > We discussed that a bit on this list. In fact we appreciate also > grandchildren distros, as long as they advertise the fact they descend > (indirectly) from Debian. When to submit an "application" in that > sense is your call, but please don't forget to do that eventually :-) I just filed a bug [2] to remind myself - I'll deal with it when the switch happens :) > Looking forward for collaborating with you. > Cheers. Agreed, and with you. kk [1] http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2010/denhaag/ [2] https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?30544 -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group
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