On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:19:01 +0200 Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 04:09:11PM +0930, Karl Goetz wrote: > > Hi, I'm Karl Goetz of the gNewSense project. > > Hi Karl, it's nice to have you there, welcome to the party :) Thanks! > > The project aims to create a distribution that is 100% free, as > > defined by the FSF. Releases 1.x and 2.x are based on ubuntu, but > > for 3 we plan to move to Debian as our base. > > [ So, while we are on the subject, I'm curious! You might be aware of > the fact that for the forthcoming Debian Squeeze release, the Debian > kernel team has split away all (known to them) non-free firmware Yes, I expect it will be a great help for us :) > bits to a separate package firmware-linux-nonfree, which is not part > of Debian. While I know (from lurking on various Debian lists) that non-free is definitely a 2nd class citisen, its still housed and built on debian infrastructure. The claim its 'not part of Debian' does require the person hearing the claim to have a working knowledge of D. the distro vs D. the project/community. (I realise that sounds a bit antagonistic - I'm not hoping to start a fight about this, just expressing an opinion). > Those non-free firmware bits will not be part of the > default installation image either. Considering that, what would be Thats great to hear! I'll admit I've not tried installing Debian for a while, so I don't know what sort of behaviour to expect from d-i these days. I'll try and find some blank cds 'somewhere' and have another go. > the differences of gNewSense with Debian Squeeze, once the latter get - The FSF and Debian don't always see eye to eye on a given subject. In this instance we will follow the FSF - gNS doesn't (shouldn't... ) contain documentation that recommends installing proprietary (non-free) software - We plan to provide all the GNU doco that debian moves into non-free in our main repo (ref point 1) - Debians infrastructure is better :p (non exhaustive list, but hopefully it gets the idea across) > released? ] > > Back on topic: it would be wonderful to have gNewSense listed at > http://www.debian.org/misc/children-distros. Can you please mail a > brief description of the distro to the mail address reported on that > page? The impression I got from the list archives was the children-distros page was being kept for direct children. I'm happy to put together a paragraph, but perhaps it should wait until we do a debian based release? thanks, kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS) Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group
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