Re: CrunchBang
Apologies to Gerfried Fuchs & Stefano Zacchiroli, I appear to have
sent my replies directly to their email accounts. Doh. For the list,
my replies follow:
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@deb.at> wrote:
> Hmm, I'm not too sure - the page stars of with "CrunchBang Linux is an
> Ubuntu based distribution". From my understanding the list is meant to
> contain directly Debian-based distributions and not ones that are based
> on something based on Debian. The difference would increase and get more
> and more diverse.
>
Yes, sorry about that, the project is currently in a state of transition.
> Hmm, so do I get your last line right, are the latest builds based
> directly on Debian, or are they just using Debian tools for building?
>
Yes, the latest builds are based directly on Debian, built using
Squeeze sources. The plan, I say that loosely, is to continue pushing
out "development" releases until such time as Squeeze is tagged
stable. Once this happens, I will change the copy on
crunchbanglinux.org domain to read, "CrunchBang Linux is a Debian
based distribution..."
I hope this helps to clarify. :)
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote:
>> I would argue this point the other way. Ex: the Nexenta distribution
>> is based on Ubuntu LTS, but definitely considers Debian as upstream
>> (It's even mentioned on the initial Grub screen).
>
> So, I think the difference is exactly in that. I've no problem with
> grandchildren distros, but I believe they should advertise or at least
> acknowledge that they are (indirectly) Debian based.
>
The latest Debian Squeeze builds of CrunchBang prominently feature
"Powered by Debian" in the initial GRUB screen. They also feature a
stylised Debian swirl logo on the default desktop wallpaper. I am
really happy that CrunchBang is now being built using Debian sources
and I am advertising that fact accordingly.
> In the case of CrunchBang, I believe that a random viewer of the
> children-distro page might remain a bit puzzled of reading first (on our
> page) that CrunchBang is Debian-based and of reading later on (on the
> CrunchBang page) that they are Ubuntu-based. If such a user is not
> familiar with the Debian-Ubuntu relationship, they might believe there's
> an error somewhere.
>
Agreed, for the casual viewer, it could appear as if a mistake had
been made; however, it should be clear to anyone who actually
downloads the latest builds that CrunchBang is now based on Debian.
This is clearly stated in the release notes [1][2] and also by the use
of the Debian logo and links on the download page [3].
-- Philip
[1]: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/release-notes/10-alpha-01
[2]: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/release-notes/10-alpha-02
[3]: http://crunchbanglinux.org/downloads/statler/alpha-02/
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