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Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others



On Wed, 27 May 2015, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> writes:
>     Bdale> I hear you, I just don't have any idea what to do differently
>     Bdale> on this specific issue in response to knowing how you feel
>     Bdale> about it.
> 
> I made a specific proposal in #741573.  
> I'd be a lot happier if you'd say "No, I think we've already reached
> agreement that the policy team didn't have consensus., so we don't need to
> evaluate whether the process was followed."

I don't think we need to decide whether there was consensus or whether
the process was followed. I'm also not sure whether deciding that issue
would result in any actual difference in the outcome of this particular
issue:

  1) if we decide that there was consensus, we'll have to also decide in
  favor of the proposal that Charles did.

  2) if we decide that there wasn't, then we'll have effectively decided
  in favor of the status quo.

But that said, I recognize that you see a difference here, and it's
quite possible that I'm just not seeing it even though it actually is
there.

These are the options that I'm currently thinking about proposing to
resolve this issue. I think option B is the option which captures your
proposal, but feel free to propose any changes in that option in the
draft in git (or by e-mail).

Whereas:
       
   1. The Debian Technical Committee has been asked to resolve a
      dispute between maintainers of Debian Policy over a change that

      i. incorporates the description of the FreeDesktop menu system
         and its use in Debian for listing program in desktop menus
         and associating them with media types

     ii. softens the wording on the Debian Menu system to reflect that
         in Jessie it will be neither displayed nor installed by
         default on standard Debian installations.

 Using its power under §6.1.1 to decide matters of technical policy:

OPTION A:

   1. The Technical Committee adopts the changes proposed by Charles
      Plessy in ba679bff[1].

[1]: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/dbnpolicy/policy.git/commit/?id=ba679bff76f5b9152f43d5bc901b9b3aad257479

Using its power under §6.1.5 to offer advice:

   1. The Technical Committee suggests that the maintainers of the
      Debian menu package support translating .desktop files of
      packages which do not provide menu files.


OPTION B:
   1. Considers that the policy procedure resulted in consensus, and
      adopts the changes proposed by Charles Plessy in ba67bff.[1]

[1]: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/dbnpolicy/policy.git/commit/?id=ba679bff76f5b9152f43d5bc901b9b3aad257479

OPTION C:

  1. The Technical Committee adopts the changes proposed by Bill
     Allombert.[1]

[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=1;filename=patch2;bug=707851;msg=446

OPTION Z:

Further discussion



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