Bug#727708: Both T and L are wrong, plea for something simpler (was: Re: Call for votes on init system resolution)

[Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be>]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 04:01:12PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Kurt Roeckx writes ("Bug#727708: Both T and L are wrong, plea for something simpler (was: Re: Call for votes on init system resolution)"):
> > I'm currently of the opinion that gnome made an initial decisions
> > and as reaction to that they are setting policy and that this will
> > be allowed under 6.1.1.
> 
> It's clear that whether this kind of dependency is allowed is a key
> issue (perhaps even _the_ key issue) in this dispute.  The question of
> the default init system is in some ways a proxy for the coupling
> question.  And the extent and timing of such dependencies is clearly a
> matter that ought to be dealt with in the policy manual.  So it is
> definitely a matter of technical policy.

I don't think anybody is arguing that it's not technical policy.

> Whether the matter is ripe for the TC is not something that I would
> expect the Secretary to rule on.  I think that's a matter for the TC.
> (The alternative would be to contemplate the TC making a decision on
> policy and the Secretary then stating that the TC decision was invalid
> and of no effect.)

I think we all want to avoid that I have to retract the decision
and so maybe it's best that we try to find the answer before the
vote.  Anyway, I've already been asked about this, so I see little
point in waiting.


Kurt