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Bug#727708: Both T and L are wrong, plea for something simpler



On 02/07/2014 17:01, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Kurt Roeckx writes ("Bug#727708: Both T and L are wrong, plea for something simpler (was: Re: Call for votes on init system resolution)"):
>> I'm currently of the opinion that gnome made an initial decisions
>> and as reaction to that they are setting policy and that this will
>> be allowed under 6.1.1.
> 
> It's clear that whether this kind of dependency is allowed is a key
> issue (perhaps even _the_ key issue) in this dispute.  The question of
> the default init system is in some ways a proxy for the coupling
> question.  And the extent and timing of such dependencies is clearly a
> matter that ought to be dealt with in the policy manual.  So it is
> definitely a matter of technical policy.
> 
> Whether the matter is ripe for the TC is not something that I would
> expect the Secretary to rule on.  I think that's a matter for the TC.

So you suggest to just ignore "In each case the usual maintainer of the
relevant software or documentation makes decisions initially"?

If you decide on the init system question first, you could just file a
bug against debian-policy and things could go their usual way.
Alternatively, the Policy maintainers could defer this decision to the
technical committee under 6.1.3.

> But even if it is for the Secretary to rule on, I hope that the
> Secretary will agree that it's clear that the question is ripe for a
> TC decision (if not wildly overdue).

Can the Secretary decide that the second part of 6.1.1 is to be ignored?

Ansgar


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