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Bug#727708: multiple init systems - formal resolution proposal

On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 01:21:19PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> writes:
> > It should be completely trivial to introduce a virtual
> > "org-freedesktop-login1" package (modulo any complexities introduced by
> > interface versioning for new methods added to that interface).  However,
> > it also seems pointless until there's a prospective provider of that
> > interface.  Do you have a package ready to provide that interface such
> > that GNOME can depend on it?  I've seen no signs that the GNOME
> > maintainers would refuse to allow alternative providers of those
> > interfaces once they exist, just refusals to do any work in that
> > direction until those alternatives *do* exist, which seems entirely
> > reasonable.
> Note that I don't think it makes sense for Steve to work on such a package
> right now for exactly the same reason that I don't think it makes sense to
> start adding virtual packages right now, or figuring out the dependency
> structure in GNOME for non-systemd logind right now.  Personally, I
> wouldn't want to work on any of those things until some of the currently
> extremely large probability space collapses.

I agree entirely; I was simply indicating (in other parts of my previous
mail) that in the absence of a package ready to provide
org-freedesktop-login1, a dependency (indirect or direct) on systemd's
logind or org-freedesktop-login1 would reduce to a dependency on systemd
as PID 1.

- Josh Triplett

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