Bug#727708: systemd jessie -> jessie+1 upgrade problems
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 02:44:03PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> writes:
>...
> > When not using systemd as pid 1, that risk would be confined to the
> > parts of systemd Debian would be using (currently only udev).
>
> There appears to be near-unanimous agreement that Debian will also be
> using logind in the near future.
>
> I think "only" in this context is misleading, given that the components
> we're going to be using anyway (including kdbus in this; if it's included
> in the kernel, I highly doubt Debian will refuse to use it in the long
> run) are pretty much the same components that people are concerned about
> being unstable.
I expect Debian to use kdbus in the long run if it gets accepted into
the upstream kernel in any case. Note that this does not imply that
Debian has to switch to systemd.
Ubuntu is also using udev and logind without using systemd, so they are
and will continue to be available stand-alone.
And having them standalone and not as part of the big systemd bundle
makes it much easier to ship an older version of udev and/or logind
in a release if that avoids upgrade headaches.
> Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
cu
Adrian
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