Bug#727708: systemd jessie -> jessie+1 upgrade problems
Hi,
Le mercredi 18 décembre 2013 à 16:26 +0200, Adrian Bunk a écrit :
> We already seem to agree that the statement in the systemd position
> statement that "does not have any impact on the ability to upgrade
> systems" is not correct.
No, we do not. I have already explained why I believe the kdbus question
(and maybe similar ones) will arise whether we switch to systemd or not.
I do not consider keeping an arbitrary number of packages at the wheezy
version an appropriate answer, regardless of the choice of init systems.
You also deliberately omitted to quote the part where I explained why
this is less likely to happen if we actually become part of the systemd
community instead of judging their work on our standards.
> What exactly is the list of features that are lost as of today if Debian
> uses in jessie the logind from the systemd 204 package in unstable and
> perhaps work Ubuntu has done for a non-systemd system?
Quoting myself from the debate page:
“Many discussions are centered on systemd-logind as in being the only
problem to address by other proposals, wildly proposing seemingly
easy-to-develop replacements.”
If you have other questions relevant for the discussion at hand, please
go ahead, but I will not jump into arguments running in circles. We
systemd proponents have spent a lot of time summing up the functional
reasons why we want systemd on our Debian systems, with logind being one
reason among dozens; you could have read them before asking the same
question again.
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