Re: cl-ironclad

[Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>]

Re: Sean Whitton
> cl-ironclad very often breaks when I upload sbcl.  But it doesn't really
> have a maintainer.  I would like to remove it, in the absence of someone
> willing to work on it.
> 
> Unfortunately this would break pgloader.
> Do you think pgloader is still used much?

Hmm. It's still being used, but not very widely. It wouldn't be the
end of the world, but still sad after all the work we put into it and
the lisp ecosystem in Debian to make it work.

I was just looking through the list of packages build-depending on
sbcl and found only two actual applications - stumpwm and pgloader.
Removing cl-ironclad would kill 50% of the sbcl users in Debian. We
could do it, but wouldn't that basically admit that lisp isn't fit for
actual application development? (Or does it just say that ironclad is
the wrong library for crypto?)


Re: Sean Whitton
> ... or if we can't remove it overall, can we remove it on 32-bit archs,
> especially i386?

That sounds much better. I haven't yet decided to kill all 32-bit
support for PostgreSQL in Debian since it actually does work fine, but
server extensions are becoming more and more a problem since people
don't test their code on non-64-bit (or non-little-endian) platforms.

So yes, that would be fine.

Christoph