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RE: Debian Jessie images are removed



Thank you for support Noah. In this case resent releases images deletion caused huge impact on our product because it is based on Virtual Machine with Debian 8. Current latest available Debian 8 image 8.0.201901221 has issues with not available network after Virtual Machine start. 
Debian 8 image releases with version 20191118.0 and 20200210.1  had a lot of fixes and made deployment more stable.

Please, advise whom should I contact to make a decision about keeping published images for Debian 8 releases?

Regards,
Oleksandr Sozanskyi

-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:24 PM
To: Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl>
Cc: Oleksandr Sozanskyi <oleksandr.sozanskyi@avid.com>; debian-cloud@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian Jessie images are removed

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 09:08:15PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > Thank you for information Bastian.
> > I understand that there will be no new Debian 8 cloud images 
> > releases but is there any chance that previous cloud images releases 
> > for Debian 8 will be available in Azure for some time? I am mostly 
> > interested in releases starting from Nov 18 2019 and later.
> 
> Express that desire also to those
> who have control over the cloud you are sitting on.

No, it is ultimately the Debian cloud team that decides what gets published (or revoked) where.

IMO we should not be taking down published images except in cases where we need to for some compelling reason like legal obligations.  Doing so risks confusion for our users, or worse, outright breakage, and that leads to lack of trust.

We shouldn't be actively promoting EOL releases, and we should make it clear where we can (e.g. the wiki, the cloud service's marketplace, etc) what releases are EOL, but we shouldn't break our users.

noah


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