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Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?



On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> wrote:
> On 07/06/2013 08:06 PM, Bromberger, James wrote:
>> Having cloud-init in the AMIs is, IMHO, a core requirement for our next
>> major release. Lots of newer things depend upon it.
>
> I'm happy to read this.
>
>> Right now we have cloud-init in backports and testing/Jessie (yay! Well done Thomas, Jakub and Charles).
>
> Thanks, but unfortunately, it is still waiting for FTP masters approval.
>
>> Moving from the current three scripts (resize root, fetch SSH key, and
>> execute #! Userdata), to cloud-init, should be backwardly compatible.
>> The question becomes: do we do this during the Wheezy cycle by pulling
>> in from backports

I'm a strong advocate of using cloud-init over any distro-specific
tools for instance customization. It's not perfect but cloud-init is
widely used by many distributions which makes it easier for users to
move to Debian cloud images if we support it as well. I think any
effort spent for making cloud-init work better with Debian is
worthwhile.

...Juerg


> I would vote for that, yes! And this is why I uploaded to backports.
> Also, backports is currently part of Debian, so there isn't any
> political problem with that.
>
>> or wait until Jessie becomes stable?
>
> That's in a year and a half, I think that's a way too long to wait.
>
>> Similar discussions then arise about things like SDKs; which are open
>> source, but change frequently. Should they be from main, or backports?
>> Also the (new, unified, python-based) AWS cli: https://github.com/aws/aws-cli/ - backports, or main?
>
> Backport *IS* main. So I'm unsure what you are proposing. Do you mean
> backports or Jessie? If we want backports, then it has to reach Jessie
> anyway.
>
>> (PS: really looking forward to getting some good discussions at Debconf going on what we want to do)
>
> Likewise! :)
>
> Thomas
>
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