Il 10/12/2024 16:59, phamiet@bluewin.ch ha scritto:
Hello Fabio, I understand... However, on my laptop which has 2 GPUs (Intel / Nvidia) I systematically install Gnome and Cinnamon together to be able to benefit from the choice of the graphics card to use when launching software, which Gnome offers but sadly still not Cinnamon, despite requests made on this subject ;-( I also perform a double installation of Gnome and Cinnamon on the mini PC which is docked on my TV. To manage the machine I have my habits with Cinnamon, but to use the OS while being 3~4 meters from my TV, Gnome is easier to use because of its large icons to select and launch software. However, I have no integration problems or conflicts between the software specific to Gnome and Cinnamon and in such a case it is GDM which is installed and it works really very well !! Clem from Mint is very nice, but he seems to focus mainly on Linux Mint, which is a shame. He should also make efforts to improve the integration of his desktop environment on other platforms. The day he is no longer with us, I fear that Cinnamon and Linux Mint will disappear with him...
Clem is an upstream developer, the main one of a small team that develop cinnamon and maintain Linux Mint, packaging on other distro is managers by the maintainers of the distro.
What you can point out to upstream are problems in cinnamon itself and in Mint, for example if there were improvements to be made for the support of multiple gpu (basically it is also present in cinnamon, I also use douple gpu, intel and nvidia, on ubuntu laptop with only cinnamon) and the support of large resolutions, perhaps to be improved but I don't know (I use 1920x1080 resolution on my computers with cinnamon, I don't know how the support for larger resolutions is)
If Mint X potentially violates some copyright, it is indeed better not to integrate it and hope that Clem fixes this one day... Since June 20, 2023, when he answered you, he has released new versions, maybe he fixed this? Mint Theme would be very useful to me if you could port it to Debian. http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/main/m/mint-themes/ There is also mint-l-icons which has been released since, maybe it is 100% GPU soft ?? http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/main/m/mint-l-icons/ For now I install addons for Mint by hand, it's a bit annoying when you have several machines to manage, we would prefer it to be done automatically :) If I can help you in any way it would be with pleasure. I am no longer professionally active and I have a lot of free time... I have good knowledge in computers, I started on an Apple 2 europlus and then I bought my first computer, a ZX Spectrum, I did Basic, Pascal and I worked on Z80A machine code at the time. Then professionally I was a systems administrator & architect of workstations under Windows NT for several years. I got started with Linux about 25 years ago and I adopted it as my main operating system for about 20 years.
Unfortunately it is not simple and I do not have the time to follow this part.
Probably you can take a look at the issue that was reported on the icon theme from where mint-x-icons was forked:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005464https://github.com/mate-desktop-legacy-archive/mate-icon-theme-faenza/commit/c1478671383a3c7960714b31f2bdc480535e4f98 <https://github.com/mate-desktop-legacy-archive/mate-icon-theme-faenza/commit/c1478671383a3c7960714b31f2bdc480535e4f98>
mint-l-* should be related to legacy (old) versions, I didn't have in mind to add those too
Best regards. PhilippeLe 07.12.2024 22:21 CET, Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> a écrit :Il 07/12/2024 21:26, phamiet@bluewin.ch ha scritto:I can't find the settings from before the installation, but I was able to configure things a little better in the graphical console... Why not use Gnome's GDM instead of lightdm ?? All this would be handled out of the box and since Cinnamon is based on Gnome, the software integration could only be better, don't you think ?Unfortunately gnome components are differentiating a lot in different things and becoming more and more specific to them only which causes problems if forks trying to maintain certain things, it's a bit complicated to explain, need to follow the development a bit to understand. As for gdm itself, years ago it was easier to use with cinnamon, but then it got more and more tied to gnome and brings with it too many parts of gnome as dependencies/recommendations and also autostarts different gnome components, as a workaround if want to use it should add them all to the cinnamon-session startup blacklist or risk issue, for example settings not working and taking the gnome one instead that one the setted in cinnamon control panelIf you need help integrating mint-x etc. and you can explain to me what to do, I could try to give you a little help.Apart from those problems the basic packaging is done, or I can do it quickly, the problem is precisely those copyright, trademark and non-free logos issues that could take hours, especially the last 2 and the icons that should be removed. I don't really know how to explain the research and operations needed, I'm not even sure I have enough experience with some of those things. Also having hundreds or maybe thousands of icons removed in a big debian/patches doesn't seem like a good thing to have either (and difficult to maintain, even if gbp pq can make easier enough instead quilt), besides the fact that ftp-master team might refuse the inclusion at the slightest copyright issue. Other distros seem to have added the package without exclusions, not even trademark and non-free logos, but it doesn't seem like a good thing. I would need the opinion of someone more experienced, but I don't have the time to follow this thing, I already have too little time for important things (I consider the addition of such packages of minimal importance)RegardsLe 07.12.2024 20:55 CET, Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> a écrit :Il 07/12/2024 20:27, phamiet@bluewin.ch ha scritto:Hello Fabio, If it's not your team that maintains lightdm, I understand your reluctance. I tested lightdm-settings but I'm not a fan and it doesn't remember the username, which is my primary need. It's even worse if I change the settings so that it remembers my username, I can't change user to connect to a graphical session ;-( How to return to default settings ??The option you told me you change manually is one of those that can be set from lightdm-settings and I also tried it before replying to the email. Regarding remembering the user, I suppose do you mean automatic login, with that is normal that autologin on specified user instead select. There isn't a reset to default FWIK in lightdm, simple revert the changes you did. About "remember the username" you need seems is not both of the selected option (hide users and autologin), probably is last-user (hide users disabled, I think is needed a part of your objective)Regards. PhilippeLe 07.12.2024 17:37 CET, Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> a écrit :Il 07/12/2024 14:50, phamiet@bluewin.ch ha scritto:Hello, I have a favor to ask you. Every time I install Debian on a machine, for lightdm to remember my username, I have to edit the file : /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and manually modify the line below by removing the # in front of it : greeter-hide-users=false This is really annoying, would you be so kind as to correct this ?Hi, for proposing a change of this lightdm default setting you should ask on the lightdm package (not maintained by this team), inserting settings for lightdm from cinnamon packages doesn't seem a good thing to me. One recent change I did to cinnamon meta package include also lightdm-settings (indirectly) if there are old or minimal installations it can be installed by hand, with that you can set that setting and others quickly and easily from the control panel.Other than that I hope we can get Cinnamon 6.4 + Mint themes X,Y,L with Debian 13.About Cinnamon 6.4 is still in development, should start to beta probably shortly, I started to include in Debian unstable some components with only fix and minor things that not require strict deps, I hope I can get full 6.4 included before the Debian 13 freeze. I started long time ago about mint themes packages on Debian, but then I stopped due to dubious copyright issues and included trademark and non-free logo on mint-x-icons: https://github.com/linuxmint/mint-x-icons/issues/198#issuecomment-2091511537 Checking and removing all the unsuitable icons takes a lot of time, which I don't have. mint-x-icons is a dep. for mint-themes, ifanyone would like to contribute it would be welcome, I suppose the theme packages won't be made without someone's contribution.Thank you for reading, I wish you a pleasant weekend and happy end-of-year holidays. Regards. Philippe
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