Re: User support for the debian-chinese-*
big5和gb编码共存不是问题吧，maillist在这方面好像也不会有问题，由于大家使用的邮件客户端不同，所以为了方便没有必要强制改用utf-8编码吧。使用少数民族语言我认为是会影响阅读理解的，debian的讨论我想按语言分就好，而没有必要按所谓国家、民族分。个人认为交流方便是最重要的，编码可能解决了传输问题，但不能解决人理解不了不同民族语言的问题。
所以我个人的观点是：虽然支持简繁邮件列表的合并，但认为不必要使用UTF-8，也不需在这个汉语邮件列表中合并入非汉语的少数民族文字。如果少数民族朋友确有需要，可以去相应语言的讨论区，或讨论申请新的列表。
2008/5/21 Yufeng Lan <nlany.web@gmail.com>:
> 抱歉延迟回复，我想鼓励大家都订使用utf8的统一中文用户列表，但是我担心有历史遗留问题（前面有的邮件谈到技术、文化、个人偏好上的困难），同时考虑到保存一个多样化的中文环境，简单的办法就是保留历史（
> 至少50年不变:)
> )，当然这要看社区资源是否允许这么"浪费"，其实喜欢"纯"简体和繁体的用户也可以设立邮件列表（反正g00g1e等免费提供，他们自己可以选举管理员，我也希望将来加入这些特殊的讨论组）。
> 订阅2－3个邮件列表对我不是麻烦，我个人没问题。
>
> 不限语言，只要是想在华人世界讨论，什么语言都包容，包括维吾尔、藏文、德语、俄语、火星文、骇客语，这也是UTF8的优势。不然又有人或组织会抗议文化灭绝了。我们在某些文化问题上还是要注意，资源允许的条件下尽量包容，这对我们的社区有好处。
>
> 大家都提了不少好的建议，我个人非常高兴看到这么多好的点子。
>
> 2008/5/19 Zhan <zhan@games.com>:
>>
>> why, just so to have less users per list. if most users end up subscribe
>> to all three, why not just merge them.
>>
>> 为什么，那样每个邮件列表上的人会更少。估计很多人会订阅两三个，为什么不直接合并。
>>
>> 不限语言？我希望中文列表上还是看中文好。英文勉强接受，至少大家懂。其它的还是不要了。
>>
>> On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:50:57 +0800, Yufeng Lan <nlany.web@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 同意，保持繁体的继续生存。
>>> debian-chinese@lists.debian.org 默认用utf8，不限语言，当然用户大部分是华人。
>>> 其他保持原状不变，一国3码。
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) <
>>> fourdollars@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> My opinion is to reopen debian-chinese@lists.debian.org to use utf8 or
>>>> to open another mailing list, named as
>>>> debian-chinese-utf8@lists.debian.org
>>>> Keep debian-chinese-gb@lists.debian.org and
>>>> debian-chinese-big5@lists.debian.org for their local users.
>>>> Then use traditional chinese in debian-chinese-big5@lists.debian.org
>>>> and use simplified chinese in debian-chinese-gb@lists.debian.org.
>>>> Use both of traditional and simplified chinese in
>>>> debian-chinese@lists.debian.org/debian-chinese-utf8@lists.debian.org
>>>>
>>>> $4
>>>>
>>>> 2008/5/19 Rex Tsai <chihchun@kalug.linux.org.tw>:
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>>>> >
>>>> > This is interesting, this thread is probably one of the most active
>>>> > in
>>>> > last couple months. :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > My option is to merge these two mailing list.
>>>> >
>>>> > Even though the list is most helping Debian users solve their
>>>> > problems, and users feel more comfortable when using the characters
>>>> > they
>>>> > can read. But there are already many local user group[1] set up online
>>>> > forum for helping out the users, which makes the mission of these two
>>>> > mailing lists marginal.
>>>> >
>>>> > Some people would say Debian is doing very good on supporting
>>>> > Chinese.
>>>> > But it does not mean we can stop the mailing list. Still, there are
>>>> > many
>>>> > decisions need to be made for the new packages and releases. And both
>>>> > encodings/languages communities are sharing these results of these
>>>> > decisions, since we are sharing the basically infrastructures for
>>>> > fonts,
>>>> > input method, configurations.
>>>> >
>>>> > The mailing list is the right place to submit Chinese-related
>>>> > suggestions, which is the place that Debian Developers can discuss and
>>>> > work together. A boundary of mailing encodings will make this kind of
>>>> > discussions difficult. And most of the modern softwares support
>>>> > big5/gb2312/unicode without problems, people can easily read the
>>>> > messages or translate the encodings by themselves. There is not need
>>>> > to
>>>> > split the mailing lists by encodings.
>>>> >
>>>> > best regards
>>>> > - -Rex
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. http://www.chinalinuxpub.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=73
>>>> > http://www.debsir.org/
>>>> > http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/
>>>> > http://moto.debian.org.tw/
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-chinese-gb-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
>>>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
>>>> listmaster@lists.debian.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Zhan
>>
>>
>> --
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>> listmaster@lists.debian.org
>>
>
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