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----- Original Message ----- From: "John Beining" <j.beining@hccnet.nl> To: <debian-cd@list.debian.org> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Warning, CD-ROM order with LordSutch.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Beining" <j.beining@hccnet.nl> > To: "Christian T. Steigies" <cts@debian.org> > Cc: "Martin Michlmayr" <tbm@cyrius.com>; <debian-cd@list.debian.org>; > <chris@lordsutch.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: Warning, CD-ROM order with LordSutch.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christian T. Steigies" <cts@debian.org> > > To: "Martin Michlmayr" <tbm@cyrius.com> > > Cc: "John Beining" <j.beining@hccnet.nl>; <debian-cd@lists.debian.org>; > > <chris@lordsutch.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:59 AM > > Subject: Re: Warning, CD-ROM order with LordSutch.com > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:23:48PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know what you're rambling, Christian, but Chris Lawrence > > > > (lordsutch) has definitely disappeared from the net. I mailed him > > > > several times about reportbug and didn't get a reponse. > > > > > > Isn't there some official procedure to find out if he is MIA? > > > > > > > http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#us lists him as selling CDs and I > > > > guess John wants to inform us that he's not actually processing orders > > > > and should therefore be removed from the listing. Also, > > > > > > So if he is really gone, maybe he should be removed from that list? But > if > > > he is gone, did he collect the money for this set of CDs and never sent > > > anything out, or did he just never reply to the order? I still don't > > believe > > > that he rips people off. A few years ago he sent me a set of CDs to > > germany, > > > so I could test them on m68k, and he did not charge me a penny for it! > > > Last seen: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:53:04 on > > debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org > > > Thats a pretty long time, but not if you are busy with real life, > > vacation, > > > or maybe a broken leg due to a skiing accident... > > > > > > > debian-cd@lists is given as contact address at the end of the above > > > > mentioned URL. > > > > > > Oh, I did not know that, but it does not explicitely say complain about > > > vendors here. Especially since knoppix is not really a debian CD... > > > > > > John, how did you pay for the CD, did Chris cash in you check, credit > > card, > > > whatever? Maybe there is a DD in the Netherlands, who is willing to give > > you > > > a knoppix CD. Or maybe one in germany. If there is noone around, I might > > > ship you one from the US, but my last download is a few months old, > don't > > > know if thats ok with you. I just don't like bashing of debian > developers > > > that contributed a lot and donate money to the project for every CD they > > > sell. > > > > > > Christian > > > > > > > I order the cd 12 december 2002 and payed with Paypal with a credit card. > > PayPal payed Chris I think, that's I want to now for sure. > > Therefore I wrote several mails to Chris which he never replies. > > I have good experience with LordSutch until now, and in that time I don't > > know where I could buy with an credit card the cd in Europe so I buy in > > America. > > Now I know at least two addresses in the Netherlands and in Germany where > I > > can pay electronicaly. > > I have already done this, thank You for your offer but it is not > neccessary. > > It is not a matter of money. > > If I donate I donate, if I buy something I expect something back at least > I > > want to know why not, two words is enough if he is busy. > > I only want to inform You and maybe other people that he's not actually > > processing orders I think, maybe he is ill, vacation I don't know but > there > > is an responsability with potential buyers > > > > and should therefore be removed from the listing. > > Maybe it is on the wrong list but I think it is related with cdrom and > > debian. > > > > John > > > |