On Mon, 2016-08-15 at 04:37 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi Roger, > > > Roger Shimizu <email@example.com> (2016-08-08): > > > > Dear KiBi, > > > > Sorry for not being able to reply earlier. > > You feedback keeps me thinking a fix. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Cyril Brulebois <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I still disagree with the UI changes it imposes on everyone, for the > > > reasons I've already given. > > > > During RFC stage of adding screen-udeb, firstly I though it's not > > necessary for normal PC, which is not exact the same with "everyone" > > you mentioned but should be close to, however a few feedbacks > > convinced me that normal PC still need screen-udeb . > > > >  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/04/msg00369.html > >  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/04/msg00377.html > >  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/05/msg00004.html > > > > I think the solution below is a middle ground, which I guess it can be > > accepted by everyone. > > - Keep screen-udeb in "common" for everyone, but don't start it > > automatically on i386/amd64. > > It'd be nice if Ben, Axel, Philipp (cc'd) could share whether they > expect screen to start automatically, with text and/or graphical > installer, or whether they would be OK to opt in for that (and if so, > how). [...] I think that all builds of the installer should provide the same functionality so far as possible, and that the options to switch to a shell and to view the log are important functionality. Therefore, remote interfaces (serial, SSH) should invoke the installer front-end in screen, perhaps with an opt-out available through a command line parameter. However I don't think that there should be any change to which interfaces are enabled by default, as that could create a security issue. For builds that previously provided only a local interface, any remote interface should be opt-in. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings This sentence contradicts itself - no actually it doesn't.
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