On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 08:31:28AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 08:38:03PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 10:38:41PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > I still think choice is good, and also what users expect of debian. A sane > > > default, plus the ability to override that in expert mode. > > Choice is overrated, and a poor substitute for properly working tools. > > "Which initramfs generator do I need to use so that my system will be > > bootable post-install?" is not a choice that *any* user looks forward to > > making; if a user really has a strong preference for yaird vs. > > initramfs-tools, that option is open to them after the install. > The real question here is : > 1) what does it cost us. I *listed* other costs, which you apparently ignored. > Joeyh is concerned about testing. I personally have doubts that this is a > bad thing, as it means more testing which is good, but i defer to his > greater experience on this. No, this is extra testing of *code that wouldn't need to exist if not for this option*. That's not good, that's *wasteful*. > > Too often, Debian developers (and Open Source folks in general) give users > > "choices" in lieu of making sound technical decisions or fixing bugs. I'll > > take "install this; it works, and when it doesn't, the bugs will get fixed" > > any day over "well, you can have mediocre.py, or you can have mediocre.pl; > > if one doesn't work, use the other one". In the case of initramfs > > generators in the installer, giving users "choice" instead of just fixing > > bugs means pushing the load on the installer team for testing a greater > > number of code paths, and on the translators for debconf templates that no > > one should ever need. > Nope, it is more than a technical difference in language used, it is a > different design goal between both. Um... the design goal is "create an initramfs that boots the user's system." Any other design goals are almost completely irrelevant to the user... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. vorlon@debian.org http://www.debian.org/
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