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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: How can I tell? It's the first Sarge 
   CD-set released
uname -a: Linux esfinge 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Thu Jun 16 18:49:46 BRT 2005
Method: 
Installed from CD-ROM, and later configured APT to use the network.
I had some problem with apt-setup, but can't remember exactly what
it was (I think it didn't remove the CD-ROM entries from sources.list
when I decided to switch to network)

There is a squid proxy between us and the world, but we seldom
remember that. I used a Debian mirror that I already know and seems to
work well for me.

Machine: Old, brandless machine, as far as I can tell.
Processor: Pentium III 800 MHz
Memory: MemTotal:       646652 kB
Root Device: IDE (40 Gb harddisk)
Root Size/partition table: 

       hda1                  Boot                   Primary           Linux ext3                     [/]                           279.66                   hda5                                         Logical           Linux ext3                     [/usr]                       5000.98
       hda6                                         Logical           Linux ext3                     [/var]                       3002.23
       hda7                                         Logical           Linux swap / Solaris                                        1941.17
       hda8                                         Logical           Linux ext3                     [/tmp]                        403.04
       hda9                                         Logical           Linux ext3                     [/home]                     29388.93

       hdc1                                         Primary           Linux swap / Solaris                                         271.44            
       hdc2                  Boot                   Primary           Linux ext3                     [/]                          4038.62
       
major minor  #blocks  name

   3     0   39082680 hda
   3     1     273073 hda1
   3     2          1 hda2
   3     5    4883728 hda5
   3     6    2931831 hda6
   3     7    1895638 hda7
   3     8     393561 hda8
   3     9   28700091 hda9
  22     0    4210416 hdc
  22     1     265041 hdc1
  22     2    3943957 hdc2

Frankly, I have partitioned automatically, and wasn't expecting such a
small partition for /tmp. Sometimes we need temporary storage for big
files (1Gb, etc).

# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 02)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Savage 4 (rev 04)

# lspci -n
0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02)
0000:00:0b.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 02)
0000:01:00.0 0300: 5333:8a22 (rev 04)


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [E]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:    [E]
Mount partitions:       [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Reboot:                 [O]

- "Load installer modules"? What are the "installer modules"?

Comments/Problems:

- Before installing, I needed to backup some data from the HD. I thought
  I'd use the first CD as rescue CD, but there was no 'rescue' boot option!
  I had to use my old Woody installation CDs (I'm glad I had them there!)

- I was happy to see that the installation was very fast and easy, if compared 
  to the previous Woody installations. It was also nice to see that the
  installer is quite smart and detects the gateway, makes good guesses about the
  DNS server, netmask, etc. And it guessed the box name right away.
  However, I had to wait until DHCP gave up so I could enter the settings manually
  (we don't use DHCP here!)

- I would have installed install LVM if the instructions on the install process
  weren't so confusing. It said I had to partition first, save the partition table
  and only later decide to use LVM, but didn't make ti clear if my partitioning 
  would become lvm physical volumes or logical volumes. A brief explanation of how
  exactly the installer would handle this would be quite helpful.

- For some reason the CDs I was using had problems when I was installing the 
  packages Probably because the CD-ROM drive is old... But after the installer
  tried to read the CD, *I had no option to give up!* -- it would fail
  to mount the CD, and neither ^C nor nothing else would make it stop. I had to
  reboot the box. It should be possible to go back and change to network if
  necessary.

- It's nice that it creates the FS less verbosely, but this time I needed more
  verbosity. The process stalled (old disk), and I wasn't sure if it was slow
  or if it wasn't working. It should be possible to switch the view and see the
  actual progress of the current command.

I think the new installer is absolutely good. Everything was easier and faster,
and (most of the time) guesses were very reasonable. Congratulations!

Once you have filled out this report, mail it to submit@bugs.debian.org.

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> - Before installing, I needed to backup some data from the HD. I though=
t
>   I'd use the first CD as rescue CD, but there was no 'rescue' boot opt=
ion!
>   I had to use my old Woody installation CDs (I'm glad I had them there=
!)

The option will be on next installer versions. Unfortunately, the
relevant package was developed too late for being included on sarge
installer.


>   However, I had to wait until DHCP gave up so I could enter the settin=
gs manually
>   (we don't use DHCP here!)

This can be done at medium priority. For keeping the simplicity, this
option is not offered on  simple installs with the default priority

>=20
> - I would have installed install LVM if the instructions on the install=
 process
>   weren't so confusing. It said I had to partition first, save the part=
ition table
>   and only later decide to use LVM, but didn't make ti clear if my part=
itioning=20
>   would become lvm physical volumes or logical volumes. A brief explana=
tion of how
>   exactly the installer would handle this would be quite helpful.

IIRC=A0? this is quite well documented in the installation
manual. Anyway, this part of the installer (partman) is certainly one
of the les clear and needs improvements. The developers know it..:-)

> - For some reason the CDs I was using had problems when I was installin=
g the=20
>   packages Probably because the CD-ROM drive is old... But after the in=
staller
>   tried to read the CD, *I had no option to give up!* -- it would fail
>   to mount the CD, and neither ^C nor nothing else would make it stop. =
I had to
>   reboot the box. It should be possible to go back and change to networ=
k if
>   necessary.

When you have any dialog box, hitting "Back" brings you to the main
menu from where you can choose a different option. Of course, during
certain operations, there's simply no action that can be taken (except
switching to a virtual console and reboot from there). Most of the
time, Ctrl-Alt-Del is operative, though.

>=20
> - It's nice that it creates the FS less verbosely, but this time I need=
ed more
>   verbosity. The process stalled (old disk), and I wasn't sure if it wa=
s slow
>   or if it wasn't working. It should be possible to switch the view and=
 see the
>   actual progress of the current command.

IIRC, there are currently some efforts to brin more granularity to the
partman progress bars, based on the output of the various mkfs commands.

>=20
> I think the new installer is absolutely good. Everything was easier and=
 faster,
> and (most of the time) guesses were very reasonable. Congratulations!

Given that your installation was a complete success, I do as
usual with reports for successful installations: I close the bug..:-)

This does not of course mean you weren't right to report. Knowing the
installations are correct is important for the d-i team.

Many thanks for your time testing the Debian Installer and reporting
your results. Have fun with your new Debian system!




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