On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:32:36AM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:51:45AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > [Josip Rodin]
> > > It would seem to me that regardless of anything, we're still waiting
> > > for pere@d.o to say something...
> >
> > We do? I didn't know. I didn't know what we were waiting for, I was
> > just waiting. What should I say? I think it is a splendid idea to
> > get an automatically updated copy of the content of
> > debian-installer/doc/html/ available under
> > <URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/> or some other
> > official location. Should I say more?
>
> Great, so I guess we can start converting the content of
> cvs://.../debian-installer/doc/html/ to
> cvs://.../webwml/english/devel/debian-installer...
>
> I'll take a look at that. Expect results within a week, and flame me if
> nothing happens :)
Could someone apply this
<patch>
stappers@fr12:/pool/debiansite/webwml
$ cvs -q diff -u english/devel/
? english/devel/debian-installer
Index: english/devel//Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -r1.29 Makefile
--- english/devel//Makefile 16 Jul 2003 17:11:13 -0000 1.29
+++ english/devel//Makefile 27 Jul 2003 14:49:02 -0000
@@ -4,7 +4,9 @@
WMLBASE=..
CUR_DIR=devel
-SUBS=website debian-jr debian-med debian-desktop debian-lex debian-nonprofit join misc wnpp todo
+SUBS=website join misc wnpp todo \
+ debian-jr debian-med debian-desktop debian-lex \
+ debian-nonprofit debian-installer
include $(WMLBASE)/Make.lang
stappers@fr12:/pool/debiansite/webwml
$
</patch>?
And when you are on it, please also do:
cd ${YOUR-WEBWML-ROOT}/english/devel
mkdir debian-installer
cvs add debian-installer
cd debian-installer
# copy the attached "index.wml" and "makefile" into the current directory
cvs add index.wml makefile
cd .. # so both makefiles will be committed
cvs commit
Thanks.
An "abstract" about this issue is
at http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200307/msg00199.html
When the changes are in place, we will encounter this error:
make -C debianer install
make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[1]: Leaving directory `/pool/debiansite/webwml/english/devel'
It looks like that 'make -C debian-installer install'
is reduced into 'make -C debianer install' ????
Geert Stappers
# This Makefile should need no changes from # the file webwml/english/devel/debian-installer/Makefile # because webwml/english/devel/debian-installer/Makefile is "upstream" # Please send a message to debian-www if you need to modify anything # so the problem can be fixed. WMLBASE=../.. CUR_DIR=devel/debian-installer SUBS= include $(WMLBASE)/Make.lang # last line
#use wml::debian::template title="Debian Non-Profit"
#use wml::debian::recent_list
<h2>Debian-Installer</h2>
# REM:Begin Comment
<p>REM:Right now this page is a shameless copy of an other Debian subproject</p>
<p>REM:It is easier to modify a file that exists, then one that doesn't.</p>
<p>REM:Release Early, Release Often. --catb</p>
# REM:End Comment ( Please clean up the lines that have REM: in it )
<h3>Project description</h3>
<p>Debian-NP is the beginnings of an internal project to develop Debian into
an operating system that is designed to fulfill the requirements of small
non-profit organizations. The goal of Debian-NP is a complete system for
all common tasks that non-profit organization need using 100% free software.
We want to provide this functionality in a integrated and documented
stable free desktop environment.</p>
<p>The name Debian-NP includes NP meaning "non-profit." We've considered the name
Debian-NGO but feel as if NGOs are usually larger organizations than the ones we
aim to serve. "Non-profit" is a somewhat US-centric term, but we have failed to
come up with a better description of the community of not-for-profit, civil-society,
worker-owned, cooperative, activist groups that we think this distribution would
benefit. If you have a better idea for a name please let us hear it!</p>
<p>The general idea for this kind of project was adopted from the other Debian
sub-projects that include, in no particular order
<a href="$(HOME)/devel/debian-lex/">Debian-Lex</a>,
<a href="$(HOME)/devel/debian-jr/">Debian Junior</a>,
<a href="$(HOME)/devel/debian-med/">Debian-Med</a>,
<a href="$(HOME)/devel/debian-desktop/">Debian Desktop</a> and
<a href="$(HOME)/devel/debian-jr/">Debian Junior</a>
<a href="http://www.demudi.org/";>DeMuDi</a> projects.</p>
<p>Debian-NP will contain a set of meta packages that declare dependencies on other
Debian packages, and that way the complete system is prepared for solving particular
tasks. Like other sub-projects, we hope that there will soon be a framework for
<a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200303/msg00014.html";>
flavors of Debian</a> on which Debian-NP might be based.</p>
<p>Eventually, we aim to write new pieces of software, useful outside of Debian, to
replace programs important to non-profits but currently unavailable as free software
or on GNU/Linux systems (e.g., a good fund raising database).</p>
<h3>News</h3>
<p>
<p><:= get_recent_list('News/$(CUR_YEAR)', '6',
'$(ENGLISHDIR)/devel/debian-nonprofit', '', '\d+\w*' ) :>
</p>
<h3>Project goals</h3>
<ul>
<li>Build a solid software base for non-profit organizations with emphasis on easy
installation, easy maintenance, security, and the creation of a secure, integrated,
standard, all-in-one solution.</li>
<li>Bring users and authors of a range of projects together.</li>
<li>Provide information, documentation, and tutorials to help acclimate non-profits
to GNU/Linux and the Debian-NP system.</li>
<li>Help non-profit organizations share resources by allowing upstream authors to
get their products packaged in Debian and distributed to others as part of the
Debian-NP collection.</li>
</ul>
<h3>What can I do to help?</h3>
<ul>
<li>Sign up on the mailing list and introduce yourself. Help design the subproject and
let your voice and your, or your organization's, needs be known.</li>
<li>Tell others in the non-profit world, especially software developers with experience
in GNU/Linux and Debian, about the project. We need developers.</li>
<li>Begin to enhancing and translating these web pages and information on
the Debian-NP Wiki.</li>
<li>Create a logo.</li>
<li>Once we get up and going, we're going to need people to:
<ul>
<li>Package existing software projects for Debian-NP.</li>
<li>Build meta packages for different tasks.</li>
<li>Create templates, etc., for existing packages to customize them for non-profits.</li>
<li>Contribute or lead development efforts to build free, platform independent software
to fulfill the specific needs of non-profits.</li>
<li>Write documentation, translation, and internationalization.</li>
<li>Build a live CD (perhaps based on Morphix, or Knoppix) to demo our distribution.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>Email List</h3>
<p>Debian has set up an email list for this group. You can subscribe to it from
the <a href="$(HOME)/MailingLists/subscribe">Mailing List subscription page</a>
or read the <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-nonprofit/";>mail archives</a>.</p>
<h3>Wiki</h3>
<p><a href="http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianNonProfit";>Debian-NP Wiki</a> at
<a href="http://wiki.debian.net/FrontPage";>DebianWiki</a> - contains a TODO list and coordination
information.</p>
<h3>IRC Channel</h3>
<p>We have a realtime discussion channel, #debian-np on
<a href="http://www.freenode.info";>Freenode IRC</a> (irc.freenode.net).</p>
<h3>Outside Links</h3>
<p>Our project has lots of overlap with existing organizations working with either technology assistance
with non-profits or free software for non-profits. A small sampling of the latter is below:</p>.
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.lincproject.org/toolkit/linux/journal/summary.html";>LINC project</a> - Linux
for Grassroots Organizing</li>
<li><a href="http://riseup.net/rcc";>Riseup</a> provides free online
services for the social justice, global solidarity, and anti-capitalist
communities. Riseup.net believes in direct democracy, anti-sexism,
anti-racism, anti-capitalism, self determination, local autonomy, ecology,
and cooperative economics</li>
<li><a href="http://www.fsf.org";>Free Software Foundation (FSF)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kiteinc.org/";>KITE</a> Keys to
Information Technology and Education - aims to deliver
computers using Free/Open Source Software to small organization
in the <q>Third World</q></li>
<li><a
href="http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/SendingComputers";>Tech
Solidarity</a> A project to ship computers to social movements in the global
south to build popular communication capacity</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nosi.net";>NOSI</a> - The Nonprofit
Open Source Initiative</li>
<li><a href="http://www.techsoup.org";>TechSoup</a> is a
comprehensive source of technology information just for nonprofit
organizations</li>
<li><a href="http://www.indymedia.org";>Indymedia</a> - The
Independent Media Center is a grassroots organization committed to using
media production and distribution as a tool for promoting social and
economic justice, with over 70 different locations around the world,
the IMC servers use 100% free software, but the local offices often
do not and could benefit from a project such as this</li>
<li><a href="http://www.autistici.org";>Autistici/Inventati</a> - A
two star project (by now) spawned by the experiences of subjects,
whose ways have met on the same needs/dreams: right to
communication, privacy and anonymity, knowledge and resource
sharing, believing in anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism and
no-commerce.</li>
<li><a href="http://freegeek.org";>Free Geek</a></li>
</ul>
<p>If you see potential overlap between your organization or project and Debian-NP, please don't hesitate to contact us
at our mailing list at <a href="$(HOME)/MailingLists/subscribe">debian-nonprofit@lists.debian.org</a>.</p>
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