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Re: Some experiences with 2.2.10/alpha



Othmar Pasteka <pasteka@kabsi.at> writes:

> *	If I insert the wrong disk, say empty disk instead of rescue
> 	disk, then it takes quite long till this is detected and a
> 	proper error message is printed onto the screen

At exactly which point in the process?

> *	while trying getting the base.tgz file I tried the
> 	network/http method which is a nice thing but it fails for
> 	me: when i supply a hostname i get the errormessage:
> 	    nf_http_fetchfile :: www.debian.org:80 couldn't be resolved,
> 		Host name lookup failure (errno=2)
> 	but actually, if i supply the ip address it works perfectly
> 	find AND i  can resolv the address if i ping www.debian.org
> 	on the shell on f2, so i don't where the bug is but it's not
> 	an error my the computer i am setting up, ping can resolv the
> 	hostname (or i oversse here something)

Which version of boot-floppies are you using?

> *	While downlaoding the base.tgz file (the 21 megs one) from a
> 	computer in the lan the download rate is ugly, it just
> 	calculates every time and one just sees how the numbers
> 	cahnge, nothing more or less static like apt or so. i.e. you
> 	can't follow at what rate it is currently d/l.

*shrug*

> *	Aesthetic improvement: i pick a country from which iwant to pick a
> 	mirror. ok, i go to austria and get 3 mirrors, but they are
> 	more or less not in order. so, wouldn't it be good to present
> 	them in an alphabetical order? (i know, whishlist, therefore
> 	the aestethic at the beginning)

File a wishlist bug against base-config.

> *	if i enter wrong data while configuring the network, i.e.
> 	supplying the wrong netmask, and i then try to get the base
> 	files i wait quite a loooong time till i get an error
> 	message. so, ifconfig is called with wrong params, i.e. wrong
> 	bcast address in this case which i can also see on the log
> 	terminal, and the method for getting the base files tries and
> 	tries to get the files but failes du to a config error and
> 	after a timeout replies me with a senseless errormessage.
> 	so wouldn't it be better if error messages are intercepted
> 	while configuring the hardware that there the install routine
> 	tells me that i did something wrong and i have to redo it?

Its no longer possible to change this sort of thing for potato.

> *	btw. what has happend to the overview of options i configured
> 	for networking? i missed this because it had helped me
> 	debugging why i couldn't d/l the base files due to a wrong
> 	bcast address.

It's still there.

> maybe debian-boot is not appropriate for this but some notes for
> the writes of the nearly perfect introductions to isntalling
> alpha. my suggestions come from a newbie's point of view,
> experienced people wouldn't bother this.
> what i missed in the install docs for installing debian on an
> alpha is the description of BSD disklabels. what is it for,
> what's the theory and such things that one can imagine what
> he/she has to configure. i couldn't have partitioned the harddisk
> without knowing bsd disklabels from *BSD ... also a little
> example would be nice in the docs how this should look like at
> the end.
> furthermore i am/was quite confused about the aboot stuff what
> the story behind this was. should i leave some megs for it or
> not? should they be within an partiton or should the first
> partition start right after the non-partitioned space for aboot
> ... some one else answered me the question but well i couln't
> have figured this out on my own.
> and there is also a bug in the pdf versions of th einstall guide.
> in point 5.2 is a listing of the   various subarchs and the i
> mages which should be in there, so, alpha has many subarchs and
> the list is pretty long but the long list doesn't get break up at
> the end of the text, i.e. is just one long line.
> another thing which puzzled me was that under the subarch dir
> resc14440.bin etc. should be (if i read the docs) but actually,
> the most i can find is just milo.bin, so what's the magic behind
> this?

I would guess the Alpha documentation is still a bit immature.  Thanks
for your notes; hopefully these documentation changes will be made.

-- 
.....Adam Di Carlo....adam@onShore.com.....<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>


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