Re: PHP 7.2 support in backports
Hi Rhonda,
this was this thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2013/12/msg00057.html
It left me with bitter feeling, but well, and after re-reading parts of the thread I was a guilty party back then for escalating the thing.
That said - PHP 7.0 will be supported in Debian stable as the previous versions of PHP have been - security patches will be backported to Debian stable. This has been always the case with Debian.
Backporting just src:php7.3 (really it’s PHP 7.3) would never be enough. People would immediately require redis, memcached, apcu extensions at least, meaning that src:php-defaults would need to be tweaked and have it uploaded to stretch-backports, then php-<foo> packages would have to be backported, …
Frankly, the infrastructure I do have in place for Debian-PPA-like archives just fine - I can probably get ‘php.debian.net’ address to make it more “official”, but honestly I will have to take care of PHP 7.0 security updates and having one more place to download just one PHP versions just adds more burden on my shoulders.
Cheers,
Ondrej
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> On 9 Oct 2018, at 14:01, Rhonda D'Vine <rhonda@deb.at> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> * Herman van Rink <rink@initfour.nl> [2018-10-09 13:33:52 CEST]:
>> As php.net is indicating that security support for php 7.0 will end on 3
>> Dec I'm wondering what Debian stable users should do.
>> More and more projects are also adding dependencies on >= php7.1.
>>
>> Adding php7.2 packages to backports seems like a good solution.
>>
>> I found bug #893700 [1] requesting just that with a comment from Ondřej Surý offering to upload.
>>
>> The only obstacle seems to be approval from the backports team ... is there an argument against adding it?
>>
>> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=893700
>
> I'm a bit puzzled about the "not going ask them again" part in there,
> because I don't remember anything about that. I've tried to dig around
> and found something about incompatibilities between php5.3 and php5.4 in
> 2012, but that was specific to that.
>
> Given that Ondrej is since a fair amount of time already maintaining
> all the various php versions on https://deb.sury.org/ the issue is
> *hugely* different to what we faced back then. I'm in awe of the effort
> he puts into that and wouldn't see any reason why the php7.2 package
> shouldn't be able to get in. I take it that the backport is based on
> the version in testing, and that's the main requirement we have here.
>
> Best luck, and big respect for all the work that Ondrej puts into the
> packages.
>
> Enjoy,
> Rhonda
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