Hi Debian I am using Sarge with Apache2 on x86 platform. When Apache starts, five processes for Apache start. The first does not drop root. The rest do drop root. It does not matter which MPM is applied. -- Alan Ridgeway SANS GAIC: GSEC, GCIH, GCFW, GCUX ---------------------------------------- "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick, How to Build a Universe That Doesn’t Fall Apart Two Days Later