On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 08:22:33PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > Sadly, there are way to many sites that >require< flash and java is just > unavoidable. ? Java is more avoidable than flash, IME. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>