Re: 7.2 in experimental; next steps?
Hey all,
We do have a dependency group list for the packages we were working on
Ubuntu. Please see below for the list. I would suggest us to define the
target architectures and start with pkg-rocm-tools in unstable then
migrate packages from experimental following the order. We have proper
build-depends restrictions for the packages on version 7.2.4 targeting
at least >= 7.2.0~ but I am not sure how debian build environment
handles dependency waits if it will queue properly we can also just
migrate all.
Group 1 (9 packages) [contains CYCLIC dependencies]:
Regular packages:
amdsmi, hipify, pkg-rocm-tools, rocm, rocm-cmake, rocm-core,
rocm-smi-lib
Cyclic packages (require bootstrapping):
rocm-llvm -> depends on: rocr-runtime
rocr-runtime -> depends on: rocm-llvm
Group 2 (5 packages):
hipblas-common, rocalution, rocdbgapi, rocm-hipamd, rocminfo
Group 3 (5 packages):
rccl, rocprim, rocrand, roctracer, ucx
Group 4 (6 packages):
composable-kernel, hipcub, hiprand, rocblas, rocsparse, rocthrust
Group 5 (5 packages):
hipblaslt, hipsparse, rocfft, rocsolver, rocwmma
Group 6 (4 packages):
hipblas, hipfft, hipsolver, hipsparselt
Group 7 (2 packages):
ggml, miopen
Group 8 (2 packages):
llama.cpp, pytorch-rocm
Best regards,
Talha
On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 10:18:50AM +0200, Christian BAYLE wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Le 28/06/2026 à 23:16, Christian Kastner a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > first, thank you all at Canonical, AMD, and Christian Bayle for getting
> > our ROCm stack updated to 7.2!
> >
> > The update looks mostly complete. Is there a strategy for how to proceed
> > next? In particular:
> >
> I was asking myself the same questions
> According to https://rocm-team.pages.debian.net/index-large.html
> I think there is some work ongoing on miopen, also missing hipsparselt,
> If I can help, let me know.
>
> > (1) Which tests should our CI run in experimental?
> >
> As much as possible ;-), not sure all the profiles are ok, and it would also
> be great to have some specific runners to be able to execute build and
> profiles tests on salsa.
>
> > (2) When uploading to unstable, in what order should this happen?
> > Libraries first, or lower parts of the stack first? Again,
> > something that our CI should test.
>
> I made some build experiment on therock that give an order, and AFAIK, there
> is a set of group in ubuntu to give the order
>
> >
> > (3) How do we deal with new architectures in pkg-rocm-tools, which
> > are still only active in experimental?
> >
> Don't know, and I must admit i'm not at all aware of the transitions things
> in debian, binnmu and so on.
>
> > Since everything in experimental seems to have built fine, does
> > this imply that the current list is safe, or do we need to cull
> > some architectures? See also [1]
> >
> For arch, i wonder what's to be done and how it's planned to evolve
> I therock there are separate / incompatible build for
>
> THEROCK_AMDGPU_FAMILIES="dcgpu-all"
> THEROCK_AMDGPU_FAMILIES="igpu-all"
> THEROCK_AMDGPU_FAMILIES="dgpu-all"
>
> There is some code that handle this here:
> https://github.com/ROCm/TheRock/blob/main/build_tools/_therock_utils/cmake_amdgpu_targets.py
>
>
> Not sure this fits our needs, but you may be interested by how it's done
>
> > What other things might need to be considered?
> >
> Some automation of the transition process would be great, maybe using your
> ppa setup, to run the tests ?
>
> > Best,
> > Christian
>
> The following list also gives some information about build time
> this is done with a very simple
>
> cmake -B build -GNinja \
> -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \
> -DTHEROCK_VERBOSE=ON \
> -DTHEROCK_ENABLE_ALL=ON \
> -DTHEROCK_AMDGPU_FAMILIES=$THEROCK_AMDGPU_FAMILIES \
> -DTHEROCK_BUNDLE_3RDPARTY=OFF \
> -DTHEROCK_BUNDLE_SYSDEPS=OFF \
> -DTHEROCK_BUNDLE_EXTERNAL=OFF \
> -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER_LAUNCHER=ccache \
> -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_LAUNCHER=ccache \
> .
>
>
> and some patch to disable as much as possible 3rdparty builds
>
>
> [1]
> [rocm-cmake SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocprof-trace-decoder SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocm-kpack SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [therock-aux-overlay SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [ocl-icd SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocm_smi_lib SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocm-half SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocm-core SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocprofiler-register SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [amd-llvm SUCCEEDED in 390 seconds]
> [hipcc SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [amd-comgr SUCCEEDED in 6 seconds]
> [amd-dbgapi SUCCEEDED in 9 seconds]
> [rocgdb SUCCEEDED in 502 seconds]
> [ROCR-Runtime SUCCEEDED in 30 seconds]
> [rocminfo SUCCEEDED in 1 seconds]
> [hipify SUCCEEDED in 39 seconds]
> [amdsmi SUCCEEDED in 51 seconds]
> [hip-clr SUCCEEDED in 17 seconds]
> [ocl-clr SUCCEEDED in 20 seconds]
> [hipBLAS-common SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [mxDataGenerator SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocrtst SUCCEEDED in 7 seconds]
> [roctracer SUCCEEDED in 156 seconds]
> [aqlprofile SUCCEEDED in 155 seconds]
> [rocPRIM SUCCEEDED in 0 seconds]
> [rocr-debug-agent SUCCEEDED in 32 seconds]
> [rocr-debug-agent-tests SUCCEEDED in 457 seconds]
> [hipDNN SUCCEEDED in 599 seconds]
> [libhipcxx SUCCEEDED in 659 seconds]
> [rocprofiler-sdk SUCCEEDED in 1324 seconds]
> [hipdnn_integration_tests SUCCEEDED in 992 seconds]
> [rocprofiler-compute SUCCEEDED in 53 seconds]
> [rdc SUCCEEDED in 107 seconds]
> [hip-tests SUCCEEDED in 2401 seconds]
> [rocRoller SUCCEEDED in 1154 seconds]
> [rocshmem SUCCEEDED in 4124 seconds]
> [rocRAND SUCCEEDED in 6259 seconds]
> [hipRAND SUCCEEDED in 534 seconds]
> [hipBLASLt SUCCEEDED in 8190 seconds]
> [rccl SUCCEEDED in 13543 seconds]
> [rocPRIM_tests SUCCEEDED in 20988 seconds]
> [hipCUB SUCCEEDED in 20989 seconds]
> [hipblasltprovider SUCCEEDED in 642 seconds]
> [rocprofiler-systems SUCCEEDED in 21223 seconds]
> [rccl-tests SUCCEEDED in 1981 seconds]
> [rocThrust SUCCEEDED in 17884 seconds]
> [rocBLAS SUCCEEDED in 16647 seconds]
> [rocSPARSE SUCCEEDED in 4520 seconds]
> [hipSPARSE SUCCEEDED in 118 seconds]
> [hipSPARSELt SUCCEEDED in 151 seconds]
> [rocWMMA SUCCEEDED in 9039 seconds]
> [rocSOLVER SUCCEEDED in 27911 seconds]
> [composable_kernel SUCCEEDED in 55081 seconds]
> [rocFFT SUCCEEDED in 493962 seconds]
>
> it's the build for THEROCK_AMDGPU_FAMILIES="dgpu-all"
>
>
> Regards
>
> Christian B.
>
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