pipewire and pulse in trixie

[Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>]

Hello,

As a result of the at-spi problems in sid which have been discussed 
here, I have done a clean install of trixie.

It appears that pipewire is now standard with mate.

I was having issues switching from Orca to speakup so I attempted to 
remove pipewire.

When doing this, pulseaudio was installed instead, there does not seem 
to be an option to remove pulse and pipewire.

So, questions are:

Is this likely to be the standard approach for the trixie release?

Is there a suggested configuration to allow switching between console 
and desktop without loosing speech if I leave pipewire installed?

Thanks

Keith