Re: Debian Accessibility
The Slint installer borrows at least one feature from the Debian installer: the
way sound cards are probed just after booting, to find a working one (thanks
More generally, sharing ideas and features between distribution benefit users of
all of them. Trying to find which one is the best is pointless as it depends on
the users' needs and use cases, in other words their requirements.
On 30/12/2021 18:56, Jordan Livesey wrote:
> Another thing, about the installer, even if you don’t know how to get speech on,
> this is for anyone new, they can just press the down arrow 5 times on the boot
> menu on an refi system, plus on supported systems, like my old Lenovo, you hear
> 2 beeps, I believe the current project leader is also visually impaired, if I
> could, I could back port orca41 since I’ve had no trouble using it
>> On 30 Dec 2021, at 17:52, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <firstname.lastname@example.org
>> <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote:
>> Hello,friendly list, this discussion was inside another discussion and perhaps
>> partly because of my poor choice of words, was thought to be a distro flame
>> war, but that was never my intention or desire.
>> I want to make a point about Accessibility in general and Accessibility
>> in Debian in particular. Nothing I say should be taken as an offense to any
>> of the developers who have done an amazing job in making Linux, and Debian in
>> particular accessible.
>> My two favorite Linux distros are Debian and Slint. I have some favorable
>> comments about how robust Slackware is opposed to Debian - or most other
>> distributions - but that's way off topic. Suffice it to say, that being a
>> Debian is the only way to go type person, I've been very impressed with the
>> robustness of Slackware, especially the accessible International version, Slint.
>> Now on topic.
>> Part of accessibility is having accessibility features known about by users
>> and have them easily used. Debian does this very well in their installer
>> which speaks to blind or visually impaired users, and provides visually
>> impaired users with a high contrast graphical installer. Excellent.
>> My original post - which I take responsibility of not wording as well as I
>> should have mentioned "ease of use". I was attempting both to tell the members
>> of this list, which are both users and developers about how Slint based on
>> Slackwware has succeeded in having almost all of it's accessibility features
>> accessible to the new non-technical user. As the blind that go to the
>> museums say: "What's good of having guided tour headphones available in the
>> manager's office when the only notice of them is a written notice we cannot see?"
>> None of the accessibility features in Slint require any user effort other than
>> running a script to use. With Debian you first have to know these features
>> even exist, then you have to install them. In Slint, thanks to Didier Spaier's
>> work these features are documented in an accessible console document. Of
>> course, his work depends in part on your wonderful work on brltty and other
>> features, again, this is not an invitation to a distro war, it's just about
>> accessibility features being accessible and my recognizing these features have
>> been wonderfully achieved in Slint.
>> If such wonderful achievements aren't at least mentioned, some or all of them
>> will probably never be brought into Debian to improve accessibility.Certainly
>> as Samuel pointed out, all these features are available in Debian, but
>> unfortunately it takes a bit of digging to find out about them.
>> Again, thanks to everyone for their efforts in achieving accessibility of
>> Linux. This always was a team effort of many selfless persons world-wide, and
>> for that I am personally grateful and appreciative.