Re: [Debconf-team] DC12 Travel Bursaries ("Herb Team"): Ping? Discussion?
Hi Moray,
Le mardi, 14 mai 2013 12.24:49, Moray Allan a écrit :
> The main reason to disallow people who ask for sponsorship from being
> part of the team is to ensure the appearance of correctness/probity.
>
> As has been pointed out, each year we have easily enough (sufficiently
> knowledgeable) people who are not asking for travel sponsorship, so
> there is no reason to make the process look murkier by including people
> who ask for it on the team.
I think _actual_ correctness matters more than the appearance of it. As
already mentionned, ways to ensure that include having more people on the
team, request that the team publishes its guidelines and processes, status
updates, etc. Taking people off the team is not convincingly improving
anything in that regard to me.
> Hypothetically, asking for travel sponsorship yourself might influence
> ratings of others in a much more complex way, not only change what
> rating you would give to yourself (rating yourself was already
> disallowed anyway), might influence your ratings in an unconscious way
> rather than because you intend to play the system, and also might
> influence what ratings other people on the team give you, in case you
> look at their ratings/comments.
If you see it from the other side: not asking for travel sponsorship also
introduces bias: if the rater doesn't need to ask for monetary support to be
able to attend, she could also maybe dismiss requests by being less able to
put herself in the shoes of the requester.
So I (currently) stand to my opinion that having people in the team from all
over the monetary-needs spectra brings more to the herb@ team than is taken
away from it in terms of probity.
> (Also, this point has been discussed since several years ago, it's not
> just "cate's point" ;)
Sure. I was referring to it's most recent occurence at [0].
Cheers,
OdyX
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