begin quotation from Brian Gupta (in <[🔎] CACFaiRw_pCWu4RFZs7x6hyAA2ZxEXxvA4c8WUR-MLFP34jZhSA@mail.gmail.com>): > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Rapha?l Walther > <raphael.walther@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 10:10:52AM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >> Given the answer from Arne below, IMO we should not pester the bag with > >> sponsor logos. We did not promise any logo on any bag to the other > >> sponsors and I consider this just as an additional giveaway from one > >> sponsor. If the bags are relatively neutral they are much more usefull > >> to attendees as you can also use them outside of DebConf in context > >> where at leat I am not happy to walk around like an advertisement. > > > > It is also my opinion. We shouldn't decorate the bags with logos from > > sponsors and logo from DC13. My opinion is that it has more value to > > attendees if there is only one small logo on it. > > So my thoughts here, are in agreement for different reasons. I > somewhat feel that if there is an official conference bag it should > either have no sponsor logos, or have the logo of all the larger > sponsors as we have done in the past. I understand that logos on bags > are less loved than unlogoed bags (by attendees), but as a member of > sponsors team, it was an additional perk we were able to offer our > larger sponsors that I was somewhat sad to see go away. (In the > future, I think we should try to reinstitute an official conference > bag, but make it nicer than the ones we gave out at DC10, which were > orange for lack of a better word, "synthetic hemp" bags.) Depending on > where future DebConfs are held, I think I will be willing to help make > this happen, if there is a will to revive the "official bag". > > That said, if a sponsor wants to add a bag as swag, I don't have a > problem as long as it isn't the "official conference bag", and they > should just do what they want as far as their logo goes. IE: We > shouldn't provide them with official conference artwork. (Vendor swag > is not a donation to DebConf, so it wouldn't count as sponsorship.) > > If they want to make it the official conference bag, I'd say that's > fine if it either had no sponsor logos, or the higher tiered sponsor > logos (Gold+) were imprinted. (In this case we would of course count > the cost of making and shipping the bags as sponsorship, and if it was > high enough would bump them to the appropriate sponsor level.) [2 more mails agreeing to this snipped] Ok, there are voices against putting only a DC13 logo and a small comany logo on the bags. So the options are: - Bags with many logos incl company logo (if they are willing to do this) Many logos means all Gold sponsors and up - No bags from this source Is there any voice against any of the other options? Does anybody want to have a longer discussion on the controversial option? If not, I would try to implement the first, and failing that, the second. Please, if possible, be quick - just stating that you have concerns and later replying more verbose is quite welcome at the moment, but I would like to get this decision out of my agenda. cu AW -- [...] If you don't want to be restricted, don't agree to it. If you are coerced, comply as much as you must to protect yourself, just don't support it. Noone can free you but yourself. (crag, on Debian Planet) Arne Wichmann (aw@linux.de)
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