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Re: [Debconf-team] PayPal donations, and fees



Hi David,

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 02:59:10PM -0400, David Prévot wrote:
> >> However, your message seems to imply that other methods of donation don't
> >> carry equivalent fees, which unfortunately they do.
> 
> You’re comparing two really different things. On one side, a for profit
> bank like company, on the other, a non for profit trusted organization.
> For fairness, I encourage you to compare the PayPal fees to those of a bank.

SPI's not-for-profit trusted organization status is only relevant for the 5%
fee taken out of some donations - even for non-PayPal donations to SPI, the
companies that handle the credit and debit card processing are for-profit, and
their fees aren't necessarily lower than PayPal's. SPI's reluctance to use
PayPal directly isn't about saving on percentage fees or using nonprofit
vendors, it's about other concerns with them that lead to an unfavorable
cost/benefit analysis in the case of SPI.

> >> The debit card plus processing fees there seem to sum to about 4.4%,
> >> meaning that 9.4% of the donated amounts didn't reach Debian, using
> >> non-Paypal payment methods.
> 
> Once checked the actual numbers (on all possible payment ways) — if I
> understood Jimmy Kaplowitz correctly, your numbers are exaggerated —,
> would it be possible to include (a link to) them from the
> monetary-support page?

"Calculated slightly wrong" is more what I meant than "exaggerated" - I don't
think Moray's numbers are off by enough to refute his point, except for some
minor detail corrections.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
jimmy@debian.org

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