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Re: [Debconf-team] PayPal donations, and fees



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Hi,

Le 31/03/2013 14:19, Brian Gupta a écrit :
> Let's not lose sight of the fact that these donations will be matched

That’s only true unless we do not raise over the 5000 $ limit (thus the
encouragement to “include on this page (or link to) the amount of money
already raised.”)

> even though so small percentage of the donations will be eaten in fees

Providing 3 % of (over) 5000 $ to a specific bank like company does not
seems so small to me, and I’m not sure Debian should encourage the use
of this kind of service without at least proposing an alternative.

> On Mar 31, 2013 12:01 PM, "Moray Allan" <moray@sermisy.org> wrote:
>> On 2013-03-30 07:09, David Prévot wrote:
>>
>>> Could we know the amount of money (percentage) that will be “donated“ to
>>> PayPal on behalf of the matching fund initiative.
>>>
>>> I mean, on top of the conversion fee: is it something like 3 % ?
>>
>> I try to avoid using Paypal myself for reasons unrelated to their fees

Would you mind sharing those reasons?

>> However, your message seems to imply that other methods of donation don't
>> carry equivalent fees, which unfortunately they do.

You’re comparing two really different things. On one side, a for profit
bank like company, on the other, a non for profit trusted organization.
For fairness, I encourage you to compare the PayPal fees to those of a bank.

>> The debit card plus processing fees there seem to sum to about 4.4%,
>> meaning that 9.4% of the donated amounts didn't reach Debian, using
>> non-Paypal payment methods.

Once checked the actual numbers (on all possible payment ways) — if I
understood Jimmy Kaplowitz correctly, your numbers are exaggerated —,
would it be possible to include (a link to) them from the
monetary-support page?

Currently, “alternate payment arrangements” are reserved for people who
“are in Japan, or another country that does not allow PayPal donations”.
Providing this is a realistic option, especially given the possible
extra work needed for the accounting, could that be open to people who
“can’t or don’t want to use the aforementioned payment option”, and
possibly made as easy as possible to use?

Regards

David

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