Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 local organization
Hi,
On Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2012, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Richard Darst <rkd@zgib.net> writes:
> > A while ago, I talked with some people about the DC13 local
> > organization. There were some interesting things about it
thanks for bringing this up now, Richard. I do think it's important we update
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/MoneyFlow to reflect the reality for DebConf13 as
soon as possible. (And keep the old info from DC12.)
> > First off, DC13.ch plans on having all DC13 money go through it.
> > For example, most years, sponsors pay to etiher SPI or FFIS, and
> > then the money is transferred to wherever it is needed, or used in the
> > hempsiphere for travel sponsorship. It allows transfer of money from
> > continent to continent from year to year.
well, indeed I see no point why eg travel-sponsorhip (should we have it)
should go via d13.ch if it ends up in .de or .us. But I do expect mosts
expenses to be paid in .ch.
> > The DC13 plan involves having all money go to DC13.ch, wherever it
> > comes from. [Or: not physically moving the money, but acconting it as
> > DC13.ch assets]. This would subject all money to Swiss financial
> > rules. And this is why VAT was such a concern.
I understand this as dc13.ch maintaining a budget, which is obviouly wrong, as
I expect those doing this do this together in debconf-team svn^wgit.
I'm very happy seeing Phillipp and Richard work together on this the way they
do. If thats the dc13 plan (which I believe it is), yay.
Please correct me if I miss something.
> > I had tried to suggest some of the money not go through DC13.ch, but
> > it seems since DC13.ch is defined as running DebConf13, and Debconf13
> > is a certain event, that gets legally iffy.
I'm sure we can (and should) do DebConf13 in a way, that involves dc13.ch
doing (as in moneyflow) DebConf13 locally, while of course various other
organisations can pay whatever costs directly. If SPI/ffis cover costs, it's
not dc13.ch's business.
> I'm a bit surprised that this comes up now. We discussed this with
> several people during DC12 (including the Debian auditors present) and
> they all seemed to agree to our assessment of the situation. Also some
> of the points were raised and mentioned during the discussion about the
> DebConf 13 association. But it may not have been obvious to everyone
> then because it was framed a bit differently.
Whatever was discussed and agreed during DC12 is not documented on
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/MoneyFlow - so let's do this now.
> Also the timing of this discussion is a bit bad. I would prefer to
> postpone this issue until after the decision if we want to stay with the
> plan to have DebConf 13 at Le Camp or if we want to go somewhere else is
> taken. I don't these two issues are related and this issue is not very
> pressing. Though we should decide about this soon afterwards.
I think we can well do this in parallel, and it's not urgent now anyway.
cheers,
Holger
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