On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 05:16:44PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > * Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> [110722 16:39]: > > I think this is an invented problem. There is no reason not to take Debian > > contributors at their word when they say they "need" a certain amount of > > travel assistance to attend DebConf. If we aren't willing to trust Debian > > contributors to answer such a question honestly, we're doing it wrong. > I'm sorry to say it, but no. This year for example someone from a > country with good traffic infrastructure said his travel would cost > three times the amount as other contributors from the very same > country under very similar circumstances. Sad but true, the requested > amount doesn't always seems reasonable. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 06:47:32PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > While it's not necessary for the committee to know the total travel > costs, I still think that we should define a broad standard on what is > acceptable to ask for reimbursement. We don't want must-have-at-debconf > DDs travel first class and then ask Debian for reimbursement. Sorry, yes - I do mean that we should trust them to answer *honestly*, but that doesn't mean we trust them to answer *competently*. ;-) It may be that we have someone who will not come to DebConf unless we sponsor a first-class plane ticket for them. Well, that person will miss out on DebConf due to unreasonable sponsorship expectations. Or they may have failed to adequately price shop for tickets. So we should sanity check the numbers as part of the process, because mistakes happen, but that's entirely separate from trying to judge the "neediness" of the applicant. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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