Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd
On Sun 20 Jul 2014 at 16:49:14 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Now that systemd is presented as being compulsory it is natural that
>From a little earlier in this subthread:
https://lists.debian.org/87mwc9gfsw.fsf@xoog.err.no
Nothing about "compulsory" there.
> developers use it. The biggest mistake was to accept to impose systemd
> only because gnome3 developpers chose to depend on it.
Apart from the fact that the default init system wasn't chosen to suit
the GNOME developers, why did that project see logind as required? Here
we are:
Note that we relied on ConsoleKit for a long time, so these
simple answers from dgm which suggest that we don't need it
is totally ignoring that we used to depend on ConsoleKit
already. The only replacement for ConsoleKit is logind.
and
We depended on ConsoleKit. The *ONLY* replacement is logind.
What concrete suggestion do you have?
Also
Discussion seems pointless. Anytime concerns are raised the
answer is to question why we want that functionality and that
we're the ones "causing problems". I'd expect it to be
constructive, how to make it possible to fulfill ouri
requirements.
It's cool that someone wants choice, multiple init systems,
multiple kernels and what not. Now they should also do the work
to make that happen. The result: Silence and non answers? Thought
so! Easy to make statements, easy to ignore questions, difficult
to acknowledge what you're asking for. Huge amount of work NOBODY
IS DOING!
All found at
https://lwn.net/Articles/581324/
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