Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Resolved: Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
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On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 03:24:36AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 03:11:16PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
> > Why WWW-pages of Debian do not use mod_gzip?
>
> I guess because we do not want to require more configuration from
> all the mirror admins than necessary. So it is their own responsibilty
> if they want to use this or not.
Sure, however we may encourage them to enable mod_gzip on
http://debian.org/mirror/webmirror#ref
Such a question is more in the scope of DSA, so let's forward it to
them.
Regards.
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Simon Paillard
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Subject: Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
From: Stephen Gran
Time: Sun Apr 19 23:32:23 2009
On Tue Apr 14 19:14:01 2009, 272335@bugs.debian.org wrote:
> Sure, however we may encourage them to enable mod_gzip on
> http://debian.org/mirror/webmirror#ref
>
> Such a question is more in the scope of DSA, so let's forward it to
> them.
I have nothing against gzip for web servers in general, but I thought
it
was always a rule of thumb thing, and you enabled it if you're
bandwidth
limited and don't if you're cpu bound. Has anyone looked to see what
the numbers are like at the moment?
A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much
bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't
matter either way?
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Subject: Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
From: Holger Levsen
Time: Mon Apr 20 07:25:15 2009
Hi,
On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote:
> A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much
> bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't
> matter either way?
ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used on
the user
side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the browsing
experience (if cpu is available to unzip).
regards,
Holger
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Subject: Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
From: Stephen Gran
Time: Mon Apr 20 07:37:30 2009
This one time, at band camp, Holger Levsen via RT said:
>
> <URL: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1298 >
>
> Hi,
>
> On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote:
> > A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that
much
> > bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't
> > matter either way?
>
> ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used
on the user
> side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the
browsing
> experience (if cpu is available to unzip).
Sure, it's a factor to take into account, but I don't think it's worth
changing the setup for a hypothetical issue. I'm only talking at
present about issues we can actualy measure, which lead me to believe
we
don't need to make any changes.
Cheers,
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Subject: Re: Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
From: Simon Paillard
Time: Mon Apr 20 09:02:25 2009
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 07:37:31AM +0000, Stephen Gran via RT wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Holger Levsen via RT said:
> > <URL: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1298 >
> >
> > On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote:
> > > A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that
much
> > > bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it
doesn't
> > > matter either way?
By the way, there are 0 figures for apache access / volume on
http://munin.debian.org/debian.org/klecker.debian.org.html
> > ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used
on the user
> > side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the
browsing
> > experience (if cpu is available to unzip).
>
> Sure, it's a factor to take into account, but I don't think it's
worth
> changing the setup for a hypothetical issue. I'm only talking at
> present about issues we can actualy measure, which lead me to
believe we
> don't need to make any changes.
Given the high volume of static text content, we can think it (at
least) worth the try.
And you're right, that's currently not a issue, but a possible
improvement.
Apache will cache the compressed pages anyway, so the CPU impact would
not be that high, for an improved downloading time (serveral dozens of
%) on the user side where the pages will display faster.
And since the compression level can set, it can be used to tune the
CPU
usage.
Best regards.
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Simon Paillard
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Subject: Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
From: Peter Palfrader
Time: Tue Jul 21 15:26:16 2009
We do not think this is an issue really worth caring about. If you
really really really feel strongly about this we may reconsider. But
until then we probably won't do this.
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