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Bug#325698: child distributions

Package: www.debian.org
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Yo!

changelog:
 * demudi is part of agnula (and: isn't it a cdd now and should be dropped 
here?  It is mentioned in 
<http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/ch-existing.en.html>)
 * Mention Damn Small Linux
 * Corel Linux is dead - I don't think we need to keep entries for dead 
distributions.
 * APLinux: delete links to further APLinux information, they are easily 
reachable from the APLinux home page.
 * BenHur -> Collax
 * Demolinux: better wording.  Project seems to be stalled since 2002 - drop 
it from the list?
 * StoneGate: correct link
 * Storm Linux: dead, drop it
 * Linux-YeS: can't find anything current in google...
 * Progeny:  not available as a product anymore, afaict
 * Telemetrybox:  not available anymore
 * deleted outdated xandros (>1year) reviews.

Finally.
 * distrowatch carries a more complete list --> link to that.
... should we just link to that list and drop the rest of the page 
alltogether?

On the matter of dead dstributions:  distrowatch archives some information 
about historical distributions.  Alternatively we may want to create a 
separate list of these.  In any case, I hold that this list in its present 
form should describe 'live' projects only.

cheers
-- vbi

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Index: children-distros.wml
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RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/misc/children-distros.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.47
diff -u -r1.47 children-distros.wml
--- children-distros.wml        27 Feb 2005 10:27:15 -0000      1.47
+++ children-distros.wml        30 Aug 2005 09:25:33 -0000
@@ -12,28 +12,23 @@
 contract</a>, we ask them to contribute their work to the main distribution
 so that ultimately, all users can benefit from improvements.</p>

-<p>The known Debian-based distributions are (in alphabetical order,
-not chronological):
-</p>
+<p>Debian-based distributions include:</p>

 <UL>
   <LI><a href="#adamantix">Adamantix</a>

+  <LI><a href="#demudi">Agnula/DeMuDi</A>
+
   <LI><a href="#aplinux">APLINUX</a>

-  <LI><a href="#benhur">BenHur</a>
+  <LI><a href="#collax">Collax</a>

-  <LI><a href="#corel">Corel Linux</a>
+  <LI><a href="#damnsmall">Damn Small Linux</A>

   <LI><a href="#debian-jp">Debian JP</A>

   <LI><a href="#demolinux">DemoLinux</a>

-  <LI>Demudi, <url "http://www.demudi.org/";>, a multimedia distribution.
-
-# <LI>Eagle Linux m68k,
-# <url "http://www.eagle-cp.com/www/m68k.html";> [in German]
-
   <LI>Embedded Debian, <url "http://www.emdebian.org/";>

   <LI><a href="#eswarelinux">ESware Linux</a>
@@ -61,36 +56,33 @@

   <LI><a href="#linuxin">Linuxin</a>

-  <LI>Linux-YeS, http://eugene.mplik.ru/doc/lys/
-
   <LI>Linux Router Project, <url "http://www.linuxrouter.org/";>

   <LI>MEPIS, <url "http://www.mepis.org/";>

-  <LI>M.N.I.S. Linux, <url "http://www.mnis.fr/";>
+  <LI>M.N.I.S. OCERA, <url "http://www.mnis.fr/en/products/";>

   <LI><a href="#morphix">Morphix</a>

   <LI>PingOO, <url "http://www.linuxedu.org/";>

-  <LI>Progeny Linux, <url "http://www.progeny.com/";>
-
   <LI>Prosa, <url "http://www.prosa.it/";>

   <LI><a href="#rays">RAYS LX</a>

   <LI><a href="#stonegate">Stonegate</A>

-  <LI><a href="#storm">Stormix Technologies' Storm Linux</A>.
-
-  <li>TelemetryBox, <url "http://telemetrybox.org/";>
-
   <li><a href="#ubuntu">Ubuntu</a>

   <LI><a href="#xandros">Xandros</A>.

 </UL>

+<p>Please note that this list is not complete.  Distrowatch aims at collecting
+much more complete data, so you may want to look in <a
+href="http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=independence";>their list</a> to
+find more information about the relationship between the various Linux
+distributions.</p>

 <H2><a name="adamantix">Adamantix</a></H2>

@@ -102,6 +94,13 @@
 platform.
 </p>

+<h2><a name="demudi">Agnula/DeMuDi</a></h2>
+
+<p><a href="http://demudi.agnula.org/";>Agnula/DeMuDi</a> is a part of the
+<a href="http://www.agnula.org/";>Agnula</a> project, trying to optimize Linux
+for use in audio and video processing.  DeMuDi is intended to be folded back
+into Debian and be maintained as a <a
+href="http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/";>Custom Debian Distribution</a>.</p>

 <H2><a name="aplinux">APLINUX</a></H2>

@@ -111,61 +110,17 @@
 configuration of the system, with the purpose to achieve the maximum
 in trustworthiness, stability and security.</p>

-<p>Available services in the APLINUX project website:</p>
+<H2><a name="Collax">Collax</a></H2>

-<ul>
-<li><a href="http://www.aplinux.com.br/forum";>Discussion forum</a></li>
-<li><a href="http://www.aplinux.com.br/faq.htm";>FAQ</a></li>
-<li><a href="http://www.aplinux.com.br/repositorio.php";>Packages
-    repository</a></li>
-</ul>
-
-
-<H2><a name="benhur">BenHur</a></H2>
-
-<p>BenHur
-(<url "http://www.pyramid.de/e/benhur/index.shtml";>)
-is a firewall appliance based on Debian.
-It provides an e-mail server with virus protection, fax server,
-VPN gateway, SMS server, web proxy and remote access (RADIUS) functionalities.
-Read it's <a href="http://www.pyramid.de/e/news/downloads/bh2_flyer.pdf";>datasheet</a> for more information.
-</p>
+<p><a href="http://www.collax.com/";>Collax</a> (formerly BenHur) is a server
+appliance based on Debian.  It provides a firewall, e-mail server with virus
+protection, fax server, VPN gateway, SMS server, web proxy and remote access
+(RADIUS) functionalities.</p>

+<h2><a name="damnsmall">Damn Small Linux</a></h2>

-<H2><a name="corel">Corel Linux</a></H2>
-
-<p>Corel developed a distribution based on Debian bundled with its
-WordPerfect and other Corel software. Corel chose Debian because
-<q>...it offers an excellent fit with the company's existing
-customer base and Linux mission. Debian has a solid charter, a strong
-worldwide developer base and a thorough testing period</q> as
-described in its
-# http://www.corel.com/news/1999/may/may_1999_faqs.htm
-FAQ (no longer available).
-It was released in <a href="$(HOME)/News/weekly/1999/44/">November
-1999</a>, after a few public <a
-href="http://old.lwn.net/1999/features/CorelLinux/";>betas</a>. This
-opened some discussion due to the fact that Corel had elected KDE
-for its GUI, and KDE license issues were not yet solved within
-Debian. Three different editions were published from 1999 to the end
-of the year 2000. However, in the year 2001 it <a
-href="http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/PressRelease/Details&amp;id=ZZZZ8DJU78T";>announced</a>
-its intention to spin off the Linux distribution.
-</p>
-
-<p>Corel Linux was available from http://linux.corel.com/.
-Users wishing to upgrade to newer Debian releases can use, as a guideline,
-the <a href="$(HOME)/News/weekly/2000/25/mail#2">Corel to Debian
-micro-howto</a> published in Debian support mailing lists.
-</p>
-
-<p>However, afterwards it was licensed to a new company called
-Xandros Corporation <url "http://www.xandros.net/";> (see the <a
-href="http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/PressRelease/Details&amp;id=ZZZZ8DJU86H";>press
-release</a>), a company which includes some of the developers and
-architects of the original Corel Linux.
-Read more about <a href="#xandros">Xandros</a>.
-
+<p><a href="http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/";>Damn Small Linux</a> is a 50M live
+CD based on Knoppix geared towards desktop use on weak hardware.</p>

 <h2><a name="debian-jp">Debian JP</a></h2>

@@ -195,19 +150,17 @@
 it works and what can it offer you.
 </p>

-<p>Since version 2.0 it is <a
-href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/versions/version-debian.html";>Debian-based</A>
-(version 3.0 is <a
-href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/versions/liste-simple-deb.3.0";>also
-based on Debian</a>).
-</p>
+<p>It is <a
+href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/versions/version-debian.html";>based on
+Debian</a> starting with version 2.0.</p>

 <p>DemoLinux is available from <url "http://www.demolinux.org/";>.
 CD images can be obtained from <url
 "http://www.demolinux.org/DOWNLOAD/";> (but first, please try some
 of the <a
 href="http://www.demolinux.org/en/distribution/obtenir-demolinux.html";>mirrors</A>).
-</p>
+Please note that the Demolinux project has apparently not been updated since
+summer 2002.</p>

 <H2><a name="eswarelinux">ESware Linux</a></H2>
 <P>ESware Linux 365 is a Spanish commercial distribution that surfaced in 2001
@@ -332,33 +285,13 @@

 <H2><a name="stonegate">Stonegate</a></H2>

-<p>Stonegate, <url "http://www.stonesoft.com/products/stonegate/";>,
+<p>Stonegate, <url "http://www.stonesoft.com/products/";>,
 is a high-availability firewall with virtual private network, and load
 balancing capabilities. These capabilities are closed-source (proprietary)
 but the base operating system (even if it's not widely publicized) is
 Debian GNU/Linux.
 </p>

-<H2><a name="storm">Storm Linux</a></H2>
-
-<p>Storm was a distribution based on Debian GNU/Linux which <a
-href="$(HOME)/News/weekly/1999/27/">appeared in 1999</a> (the first
-alpha was released in <a
-href="http://old.lwn.net/1999/0708/a/storm.html";>July</a>).
-However, the manufacturer, Stormix Technologies,
-<a href="http://old.lwn.net/2001/features/Timeline/?month=jan";>filed for
-bankruptcy in the year 2001</a> (some more information about this on <a
-href="http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/01/27/1451236&amp;mode=nocomment";>Newsforge</a>).
-Storm Linux received some good reviews
-# href="http://linuxpower.org/display.php?id=162";
-# href="http://www.gnulinux.com/articles/stormix.shtml";
-but the distribution is no longer available.
-</p>
-
-<p>Storm was available at Stormix Technologies' Storm Linux website,
-http://www.stormix.com/ (no longer available)
-</p>
-
 <h2><a name="ubuntu">Ubuntu</a></h2>

 <p>Ubuntu (<url "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/";>) is a Linux distribution
@@ -375,13 +308,5 @@
 </p>

 <H2><a name="xandros">Xandros</a></H2>
-<p>Xandros Desktop <url "http://www.xandros.net/";> is another
-Debian-based distribution, which appeared after Corel Linux
-(as described in its <a
-href="http://www.xandros.net/faq";>FAQ</a>).
-
-<P>You can read a review on Xandros 1.0 at
-<a href="http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,648362,00.asp";>ExtremeTech</A>,
-<a href="http://www.distrowatch.com/review-xandros.php";>DistroWatch</a>, and
-<a href="http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1762";>OSnews</a> (beta preview).
-</p>
+<p>Xandros Desktop <url "http://www.xandros.com/";> is another
+Debian-based distribution, with roots going back to Corel Linux.</p>
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