Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:02:19PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On 9/20/06, Denis Barbier <barbier@linuxfr.org> wrote:
> >Anthony Towns [wrote]:
> > A question that has been raised is whether the
> > organisation can be sufficiently "outside" of Debian when
> > the DPL is intimately involved. I don't have the answer
> > to that - in my opinion it can be, but whether this one is
> > will be up to Debian to decide.
> >
> >The article's title mentioned in the first paragraph is: "Debian
> >experiments with funding group to release 'etch' on time". Even
> >if Anthony Towns and other Dunc-tankers claim that their project
> >is not affiliated to Debian, external people will still see this
> >project as being handled by the Debian Project Leader, and thus
> >implicitly by the Debian project.
> ...
> >But we, Debian developers, can make this confusion vanish,
> >and I would like to propose that we answer to the valid
> >question quoted in the second paragraph above by recalling
> >our Project Leader, as allowed by our Constitution
> >(section 4.1.1) and am seeking seconds for this proposal.
>
> I don't understand how this proposal answers the question.
>
> One answer implied by your proposal: "Dunc-tank is
> grounds for removing Debian's leader, that means it
> is a debian project."
No.
Do you remember the discussions about the Debian Core Consortium
last year?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/07/msg00202.html
Debian developers were concerned about trademark issues, and
this consortium has been renamed into DCC Alliance. This does
not mean that Debian was part of the DCC Alliance.
> If this was the only answer implied by your proposal, I
> might agree that your proposal makes confusion vanish.
> But, it's one of many contradictory implied answers.
Ok, let me clarify.
Is dunc-tank perceived as an independant project when it is
launched by the Debian Project Leader, and this project asks
people to give money to help release Etch in time?
In my opinion no, people believe that they give money to a
Debian project whereas dunc-tank is not.
This is why I told that this recall procedure will make this
confusion vanish.
Denis
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