On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 03:01:41PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > (Please treat this question as if it were asked on debian-devel not > here.) (Not really sure what difference that makes) > Anthony Towns wrote: > > I do think it would be interesting for the project to embrace the d-i beta > > releases and the testing-security support and turn those into regular > > "mini-releases", without many of the standards we expect of stable, > > but in a form that's still useful. > That's been a goal of mine for several years. What more do you feel we > should do on those beta releases to reach that? I suspect the only thing that's /necessary/ would be to announce them as a release rather than a beta -- I'm inclined towards "snapshot release", but maybe "preview release", or "March 2006 release" or similar would work too. That is, admit they're not necessarily 100% great, but encourage users to use them. Other things that would add to that, imo, would be: (a) branching the archive or doing other necessary changes to ensure netinst CDs etc work reliably (b) security.d.o support against the last preview release, so that users can upgrade from CD/DVD and only have minimal daily downloads (c) having it be an equally important part of the project to stable point releases, including a mail to -announce and similar I'm not sure if branching the archive's feasible, but it at least becomes plausible when the mirror split's done shortly; likewise I don't know how plausible meaningful security.d.o support is, but I think it's worth a shot. I suspect there are other things people could think up too, but those are my ideas. > Another thing we don't do right now is keep the DVDs and larger CDs > static as released, they continue being updated each week. I presume that means that they were broken a week or two ago when stuff was switching over to the current d-i? > So is it just a matter of terminology, perception, and polish; or do you > see other major areas where we should improve? I don't think it's a matter of polish at all (well, with the exception of things eventually breaking as development continues), mostly one of changing the perception to be from a "beta" to a "release", and doing the work necessary to make that perception valid. Cheers, aj
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