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Re: logging no longer standard?



On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 10:57:41PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 8/7/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > I have no idea which way you may break journald and why you have not
> > just installed rsyslog yet if you trust it more and have a hope to find
> > there more info than in journalctl output. journalctl has a number
> > option for filtering: per unit, --system, --user, etc.
> > 
> Show me anyplace in the man page where "--user" occurs, please. Its not
> there in my man page.

unicorn:~$ man journalctl | grep -- --user
       --user, --system, --directory, and --file options, see below.
       --system, --user
           Show messages from service of current user (with --user). If
           The --user option affects how --unit arguments are treated. See
           With --user, all --unit arguments will be converted to match user
           messages as if specified with --user-unit.
       --user-unit=
troff: <standard input>:1187: warning [p 13, 6.3i]: can't break line

That's 7 instances in my man page, although some of those are apparently
part of "--user-unit".

Of course, all of this is a gigantic red herring.  If you have a problem
with something called an "AppImage", whatever the hell that is, the
details are not likely to show up in system logs.

If you don't like journalctl and related things, install rsyslog.  It
will take less than a minute, and then your system logging will be back
to normal.  You can read the files in /var/log/ just like always.

Meanwhile, you will need to find out where your "AppImage" thing is
actually logging, if indeed it does ANY kind of logging at ALL.  It's
probably not using syslog().  Ask people who use the thing in question.
Those people may or may not be on debian-user.


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